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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:56 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:56 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS.
who gives a shite about who the "good guys" are
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:58 pm to NC_Tigah
especially on the side that is explicitly threatening to end the world in a nuclear holocaust all because it isnt getting its way
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:00 pm to Chromdome35
Is that a taco truck in the background?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:02 pm to BRHSBulldog
I don't think Ukraine has enough of these to lose one.
Video at link
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582418731749498880
ETA1: And a strike on a launcher
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582036244959150080
ETA 2:
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582037859846217730
ETA 3:
https://twitter.com/etozhebelt/status/1582043645909532674
Looks like the Russians are learning to use their new Iranian friends' toys.
Video at link
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582418731749498880
quote:
#Ukraine: A Ukrainian 35D6/36D6 three-dimensional air surveillance radar system was destroyed by a Russian Lancet loitering munition in the vicinity of Peremoha, #Mykolaiv Oblast.
ETA1: And a strike on a launcher
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582036244959150080
quote:
#Ukraine: A Ukrainian 5P85S launcher of the S-300PS surface-to-air missile system was damaged by a Russian Lancet loitering munition in #Zaporizhzhia Oblast. The munition hit the transporter-launcher containers but without any secondary detonation.
ETA 2:
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1582037859846217730
quote:
Possibly empty, but clearly not a decoy. A 5N63 radar on a 40V6M mast can be seen nearby - that's a valuable asset indicating a real position.
ETA 3:
https://twitter.com/etozhebelt/status/1582043645909532674
quote:
Yep, seems like a totally real S-300 launch position because there was A LOT of launchers deployed, just on this video can be seen four of them
Looks like the Russians are learning to use their new Iranian friends' toys.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:03 pm to BRHSBulldog
quote:
Is that a taco truck in the background?
Don't knock a battlefield roach coach!
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:03 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
You do realize what the REAL red, white and blue would do to your version of it, right? And I’m not talking about nukes you can throw the nukes out of the equation. Nuke threats is what Russians do by default because that is their only card they can play. Military against military no nukes on either side and the Russian military doesn’t exist in a very short amount of time if they ever truly pissed the United States off. Russia is like the boy who cried wolf too many times. The nuke threats have become completely boring at this point.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:05 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Are you a 3rd grade girl? Because your 'logic' relates at that level.
especially on the side that is explicitly threatening to end the world in a nuclear holocaust all because it isnt getting its way
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:07 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:
You do realize what the REAL red, white and blue would do to your version of it, right? And I’m not talking about nukes you can throw the nukes out of the equation. Nuke threats is what Russians do by default because that is their only card they can play. Military against military no nukes on either side and the Russian military doesn’t exist in a very short amount of time if they ever truly pissed the United States off. Russia is like the boy who cried wolf too many times. The nuke threats have become completely boring at this point.
But they have nukes.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:07 pm to NC_Tigah
please point out the inaccuracy of that statement
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:09 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Looks like the Russians are learning to use their new Iranian friends' toys.
It is an interesting problem for Ukraine and the west. All accounts are these little drones are worth about $20k. Calls into question the cost of air defense in trying to take swarms of these out.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:10 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
quote:
It's a war who gives a shite about who the "good guys" are. Here is the truth - we are all sinners in the hands of an angry god and in a war the only "good guy" is the side that wins.
It’s fine to take the Thrasymachus position from the Republic if you’re prepared to be a moral relativist/nihilist, but you’ve already told us you oppose the GAE (before you edited your more candid remarks). It’s hard to live the nihilism you’re pretending to here.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:12 pm to JayDeerTay84
And so do we. And as Trump said, ours are better. Putin likes his life he isn’t ready to die yet I promise you. Russians have been threatening to nuke people from the day they were able to build the bomb. It’s standard Russian doctrine to threaten to nuke people when they aren’t getting their way.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:13 pm to OleWar
quote:
So American cultural power is dressing like a slob and listening to the worst music in the history of civilization.
It extends far further. English is the lingua franca, there are several forms of media from video games to films where the American aesthetic is mainstream to the point you don't specifically think that it is American at all. Just because something doesn't suit your particular taste doesn't mean that it's not true, you know?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:16 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
There is no third equilibrator. The nuclear equation is not trilateral.
My god. The equilibrium states that if any two nuclear powers use the weapon on each other, i.e. Party A on Party B or vice-versa. That doesn't describe this situation, because the use would be on a battlefield that is neither the home of Party A or B.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:19 pm to JayDeerTay84
Drone swarms (On the ground and in the air) will rule the battlefields of the future.
quote:
Calls into question the cost of air defense in trying to take swarms of these out.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:19 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:
You do realize what the REAL red, white and blue would do to your version of it, right? And I’m not talking about nukes you can throw the nukes out of the equation. Nuke threats is what Russians do by default because that is their only card they can play. Military against military no nukes on either side and the Russian military doesn’t exist in a very short amount of time if they ever truly pissed the United States off. Russia is like the boy who cried wolf too many times. The nuke threats have become completely boring at this point.
So what you’re saying is that we should just go ahead and destroy the Russian military now?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
i am not surprised that is your takeaway from that
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:27 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:
It is an interesting problem for Ukraine and the west. All accounts are these little drones are worth about $20k. Calls into question the cost of air defense in trying to take swarms of these out.
I have said before the largest ROI for the US and NATO is being able to dissect the Russian strategy/tactics and materials used in this conflict and adopted by many would be belligerents. This conflict is becoming the laboratory and crucible for the coming drone wars. The information we are gleaning regarding their implementation and the impetus for countermeasures will be invaluable for the US military going forward. The Ukraine-Russia war will likely revolutionize drone warfare similar to what the '73 Yom Kippur war did for tank warfare.
This is a potential inflection point in the way war both symmetric and asymmetric is waged. Pay close attention.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:31 pm to Chromdome35
Non-zero chance we go back to the age of flak cannons for situations we can’t just blow up the command link.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:40 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Not at all. Just stating a fact. In a Russia vs USA conflict Russia would be wiped out in amazingly short order. No nukes needed. The United States Air Force would rain down hell on them.
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