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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:35 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:35 am to
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How do you expect foreign invaders to be treated
So war crimes are OK, as long as they are Ukrainian, because of the invasion?
Good to know.

How about widespread torture in the Donbas region by the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) as reported by Amnesty International prior to 2022? Was that OK as well?

Again, both sides, the Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces, were doing it. They were doing it then. They are doing it now.
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:46 am to
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Maybe you should realize that Trump (who I voted for twice) is losing support among voters "bigly" Even one of his campaign managers has jumped ship.
That's interesting.
You must have your own polling service?

e.g., A couple of weeks ago in a RV survey, Trump led PotatoBrain 48% - 46%
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:47 am to
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I would ask a friend whose company provides the water based drilling fluid additives for Equinor but while his company's formulation (from modified corn polymers) it's likely sold via a major drilling fluids company with their label.




Jesus, dude.

It's so funny that you think because you know a few people in O&G that do business internationally that for one it impresses us and for two that they somehow have a handle on foriegn affairs, war, etc

Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:50 am to
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Shahed-136


Unimpossible Iran assured us they weren't selling nuffin to the Russians
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 7:51 am to
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That's interesting.
You must have your own polling service?




Dude, citizenk knows people that are in the O&G field and do international business. They know more than any poling or survey that does that stuff for a living.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:19 am to
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What I take from that headline is the media trying to deflect from its own incompetence. When the media was backing up Obama and laughing at Romney warning about Russia they were wrong. When they hated Trump and he was the only one actually standing up to Putin in any real and quantitative sense by opposing Nord Stream and actually giving lethal aid to Ukraine they were wrong. The media opposes Musk because he calls them out and somehow try to portray him as weak on Russia when in fact he has done more to help Ukraine in a tangible way than any one single individual with free high speed internet from Starlink, which is beyond any shadow of a doubt helping to kill as many Russians as HIMARS is.


Definitely agree from this perspective. I’ve just been trying to figure out how/why Trump is so different at times post White House.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:22 am to
What happened to you being banned from this thread?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:22 am to
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Definitely agree from this perspective. I’ve just been trying to figure out how/why Trump is so different at times post White House.


He's whatever his fans want him to be. And I don't say that disparagingly.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:26 am to
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I honestly don’t know where Trump’s head is,


Just days ago he called Jews "ingrates" Context is that they didn't all vote for him even after Abraham Accords. That still is a deal breaker. Though not Jewish, I have a lot of Jewish biz friends and they vote as individuals. Most of them loathed Obama and generally vote GOP. Not single issue voters
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:28 am to
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What happened to you being banned from this thread?




Spoken like a true Comrade
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by Burhead
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:31 am to
Think its only a matter of time now before Luka joins Putin's misadventure. However I don't think Kyiv will be the target, I wonder if Putin isn't going to try and use a joint Belarusian/Russian group to try and rush Lviv to cut off Western arms shipments?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:31 am to
Just a question
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:33 am to
Nah I get it. You don't like what he is saying so you want to limit his ability to say it, Comrade.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:34 am to
Yea, his propensity to call people genocial warmongers when they dont 100% agree with everything he says is kinda shitty
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:35 am to
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I wonder if Putin isn't going to try and use a joint Belarusian/Russian group to try and rush Lviv to cut off Western arms shipments?


That would be more suicidal than the original assault on Kyiv
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:38 am to
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Yea, his propensity to call people genocial warmongers when they dont 100% agree with everything he says is kinda shitty



Understood, Comrade
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:39 am to
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Yea, his propensity to call people genocial warmongers when they dont 100% agree with everything he says is kinda shitty


That shite cuts both ways brother
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:41 am to
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That would be more suicidal than the original assault on Kyiv


We're talking about the the Russians here so...
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 8:42 am to
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He's whatever his fans want him to be. And I don't say that disparagingly.


Probably the best answer and I guess my struggle is really with the fans. I think there’s a decent contingent that thinks Putin is fighting the NWO etc and saving us all and a decent contingent that is largely rational and liked most of his administration, which is different than what we’re getting recently.

Anyway, I’ll drop subject as it’s political and not really related to the war which is our focus.
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