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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:50 pm to Camp Randall
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:50 pm to Camp Randall
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If you want to blame the blue team’s weak leadership over Crimea in 2014 and clownish bailing in Afghanistan for this Putin ego trip war disaster, I can get behind that for sure.
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:51 pm to OMLandshark
quote:If Biden is weak, but Putin is struggling in Ukraine, what does that make Putin?
Putin started getting his ducks in a row when Afghanistan fell. Yes, Biden is partially responsible for Putin invading Ukraine because Biden is simply weak.
Russians like leaders who project strength. Putin's facade is starting to lose it's luster.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:52 pm to Camp Randall
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If you want to blame the blue team’s weak leadership over Crimea in 2014 and clownish bailing in Afghanistan for this Putin ego trip war disaster, I can get behind that for sure.
Here you go.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:54 pm to mmcgrath
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If Biden is weak, but Putin is struggling in Ukraine, what does that make Putin?
Russians like leaders who project strength. Putin's facade is starting to lose it's luster.
Yes, Putin miscalculated and is also looking weak. Just because Biden's weak doesn't mean those two things can't be true at once.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:58 pm to OMLandshark
quote:LINK
According to Russian-appointed head of Crimea, waiting at the ferry crossing in Crimea takes about 3-4 days. And there are about 900 trucks in line at the moment.
So much for BKR’s talking point about that Ukrainian attack on the Crimean Bridge being a failure. The bridge might still be standing but if it now takes 3-4 days to move supplies across the Kerch Straits when it used to take less than an hour then it’s just as good as knocking the bridge down.
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New photos of Crimean bridge were published. It’s visible that the second road is a bit wobbly ??
LINK That bridge looks real sturdy to me.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 1:59 pm to OMLandshark
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Putin miscalculated and is also looking weak. Just because Biden's weak doesn't mean those two things can't be true at once.
Post of the day. You have to be able to look at all viewpoints in order to make the best decision. The majority on here seem not to have that ability.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:00 pm to BrianKellyRespecter
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There are going to be a half million inadequately armed and trained Russian troops in the annexed areas by the end of the year.
FIFY. More poor schlubs to be killed in their trenches while they’re kissing the icon.
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Ukraine might make some gains in the next few weeks but whatever is still under Russian control by this time next month I think it is reasonable to assume will be Russia more or less forever.
I don’t know why you have given the Ukes a time limit for taking back all of their territory. Do you not think that the West will respond to Putin’s addition of troops in the war zone?
Recall that the Ukes are beating the hell out of the RFAF with discontinued western technology. The West will simple give the Ukes more capable meat grinders.
The real test will be for the Russian public as they experience more and more horrific personal loses in Ukraine.
The war has severely weakened Russia and the vultures are circling, waiting for their death as a 21st century nation. There is only a grim future for the Russian Federation.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:03 pm to OMLandshark
I must have missed your reply to my questions…
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We need to? Negotiate what? With whom? I’m certain the US is willing to be part of a peace negotiation on terms acceptable to Ukraine. What terms do you think we should be seeking? What terms do you think Ukraine should accept? Russia?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:04 pm to WDE24
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We need to? Negotiate what? With whom? I’m certain the US is willing to be part of a peace negotiation on terms acceptable to Ukraine. What terms do you think we should be seeking? What terms do you think Ukraine should accept? Russia?
I think Elon's solution is the one that is best so far. Do that.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:04 pm to WeeWee
I haven't seen this posted yet, but this might be one of the hottest takes I've seen recently:
POLITICOEurope Twitter
These people are nuts...
POLITICOEurope Twitter
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It took a war criminal to speed up Europe’s green revolution. Vladimir Putin’s brutal invasion of Ukraine has forced Europe to finally break its fossil fuel addiction. For this reason, he has topped our inaugural #POLITICOGreen28 list. Read more here: LINK
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By launching a bloody invasion of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has done more than almost any other single human being to speed up the end of the fossil fuel era.
These people are nuts...
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:05 pm to OMLandshark
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Biden is partially responsible for Putin invading Ukraine because Biden is simply weak.
Do you want to expound upon and clarify this point or will you allow it to sink into the fathomless depths along with your countless other assertions?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:06 pm to OMLandshark
quote:So capitulate and just give Putin what he wants? Why should Ukraine consider doing that?
I think Elon's solution is the one that is best so far. Do that.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:07 pm to WDE24
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So capitulate and just give Putin what he wants? Why should Ukraine consider doing that?
What if the places Putin has conquered want to be a part of Russia. Why should someone in Kiev get to dictate this? Not defending Putin's action, but there are nuances in war.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:09 pm to OMLandshark
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If Biden is weak, but Putin is struggling in Ukraine, what does that make Putin? Russians like leaders who project strength. Putin's facade is starting to lose it's luster. Yes, Putin miscalculated and is also looking weak. Just because Biden's weak doesn't mean those two things can't be true at once.
Biden is weak and looked really weak with egg on his face last fall. Putin is weak and looks really weak with egg on his face this fall.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:09 pm to Kentucker
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Do you want to expound upon and clarify this point or will you allow it to sink into the fathomless depths along with your countless other assertions?
It's as simple as Putin saw people falling from planes in Afghanistan, thirteen of our troops being blown up, leaving Americans behind enemy lines, and Putin decided now was his opportunity to take Ukraine.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:09 pm to SOSFAN
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Post of the day. You have to be able to look at all viewpoints in order to make the best decision. The majority on here seem not to have that ability.
You said this was all Biden's fault, as opposed to the maniac who actually launched the war to fulfill his delusions of faded Russian imperial glory. If this was ongoing during Trump you'd be Ukraine's biggest cheerleader. Your viewpoint is bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:10 pm to OMLandshark
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I think Elon's solution is the one that is best so far. Do that.
Since you won’t post the “solution,” I will.
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The Tesla CEO took to Twitter to suggest that to reach a peace deal with Russia, which had invaded Ukraine in late February, the government in Kyiv should give up territory that Moscow had seized in 2014. Musk further argued that Ukraine should adopt a neutral status, drop any bid to join NATO, and also called for the United Nations to oversee a new referendum in the territories that Russia has looked to annex.
Yep, you gave up your lunch money to bullies.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:11 pm to OMLandshark
quote:That’s not nuance, that’s swallowing Russian propaganda without any thought or consideration of who the aggressor or victims are in this war. You intentionally do all only for domestic political reasons. It’s thinly veiled, if at all.
What if the places Putin has conquered want to be a part of Russia. Why should someone in Kiev get to dictate this? Not defending Putin's action, but there are nuances in war.
Again, why should/would Ukraine consider that?
You have no answers.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:11 pm to OMLandshark
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Putin started getting his ducks in a row when Afghanistan fell. Yes, Biden is partially responsible for Putin invading Ukraine because Biden is simply weak.
I’m guessing Putin set his sights on Ukraine in November of 2020. He wrongly assumed that Biden, like Obama would do nothing once he invaded. He was wrong. Biden did the opposite of what Putin thought he would do.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:14 pm to OMLandshark
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I think Elon's solution is the one that is best so far. Do that.
You can’t have a free election for self determination in a war zone where refugees have left and where the conquerors remain armed and in control. It’s ludicrous to think that kind of election would be free and fair.
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