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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:40 pm to
Yeah, just not a lot going on.

I do notice that the 7-day forecast shows no rain in either the south or the east. This should cut down on the mud for a while and allow for good armor maneuverability, and that also allows good visibility for drones and aircraft of both sides.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:44 pm to
There has still been a steady stream of new video posted of various close combat, attacks on Armor, arty strikes, and drone attacks. But I don't normally post them as there is no way to be sure if they are old footage or not.

So many of the arty and drone strike videos have no date, so they could be from 3 months ago. Also both sides splice the crap out of the videos which makes them worthless as you can't even tell if it's the same target.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:46 pm to
I'm surprised that Ukraine hasn't pushed much in the last week, they certainly had the initiative on the battlefield and the momentum on their side. The longer they wait to strike again, the more prepared Russia will be and the more it will cost in casualties.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:50 pm to
There was another prisoner exchange today

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1579911421517008897
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??Another prisoner exchange happened today. According to the head of Presidential Office, 32 Ukrainian soldiers returned home, and also the body of Israeli citizen, who was living in Ukraine and joined the Army when Russia re-invaded back in February.


Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:52 pm to
Supposedly from today, some infantry combat footage, no gore, and annoying music.

Video at link
https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1579741830098612226
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???Ukrainian forces, supported by T-64BV tank engage Russian invaders in the east.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:55 pm to
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I’d say let the people be heard in an honest and fair election

But that’s not going to happen. We both know it.
Again sadly, you are simply misinformed here. There is no point, given the choice between Russia and Ukraine, that Crimea would have chosen Ukraine over Russia. That, my friend, is how Russia simply walked in and took it.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:57 pm to
https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1579845602690871298
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New. Zelensky says Kremlin has ordered 2400 more Iranian drones. Russia has been burning 20-30 of them every day. They are primitive. Ukrainian air defence can shoot most of them down. But they can overwhelm systems and get thru. At minimum they use up valuable defensive weapons.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:00 pm to
A series of 3 videos showing a Russian armor assault across a field.

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Video of an assault by the Russian/LNR's 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade reportedly on Spirne with T-64BV tanks, BMP-1, BMP-2, and BRM-1K.


1 of 3
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1579961046819049472

2 of 3
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1579961882446036994

3 of 3, shows troops dismounting and attacking as well as tanks in open field firing on the move with IFV support
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1579962567413628928
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 6:02 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:00 pm to
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What coup?


You would even embarrass yourself if you owned a mirror.

mmcgrath, do yourself a favor. Work first on your own contentions and concepts rather than trying to seek out arguments vs others. The former is challenging enough.
Posted by mmcgrath
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:07 pm to
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You would even embarrass yourself if you owned a mirror.

mmcgrath, do yourself a favor. Work first on your own contentions and concepts rather than trying to seek out arguments vs others. The former is challenging enough.
You have nothing but personal attacks. Maybe you can look up the definition of "coup" and explain how it describes someone vacating office.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Again sadly, you are simply misinformed here. There is no point, given the choice between Russia and Ukraine, that Crimea would have chosen Ukraine over Russia. That, my friend, is how Russia simply walked in and took it.


There was no call in any of those areas to become Russian pre invasion. Once again, you seem to just use Kremlin based talking points and that of clueless talking heads. Just like you have no understanding of oil/gas production and how major companies sell off old wells/fields when the oil isn't flowing to their standards. It is sort of like KBR not being interested in remodeling a bathroom even at a high profit margin, they normally love 10% profit margins while a small contractor cannot live on 10% profit. Wells can produce for decades at just a few barrels a day. Once production is stopped, these sand up in a short period of time then require capital to get them flowing again.

FTR, my wife inherited an interest in an oil lease in Mississippi, she sold it to the operator not wanting to fool with 50 cents a month royalty payments. There were a gazillion of these wells pre Covid. There have been attempts at new technology to increase flow rate which by itself would have made the US net oil independent well over a decade ago. To increase production from around 2 million BPD to 7+ million would have been huge.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Chromdome35


Now go to Benning and enjoy your grandkids forgetting this thread exists for the week. We will be here when you get back and you can go back to grinding.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:12 pm to
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That, my friend, is how Russia simply walked in and took i


You are an artful dodger. Can a fair election be held by in a conquered area with the conquerors present? A fair election would be an election held free of an armed conquerer?

And I agree, Russia would have won an election if it were held before an invasion. But that would have been fair and free.

As for Russias walking in you left out the part about masked soldiers and bribed admirals. But no, Russia didn’t meet much resistance. Just some after affects from a lot of the international community.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:17 pm to
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Maybe you can look up the definition of "coup" and explain how it describes someone vacating office.
Oh my.

Now why did Yanukovych "vacate office"?

Was he sick? Did he just lose interest? or did he flee for his life?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:19 pm to
Other news today was the announcement that the additional 4 HIMARS that we promised Ukraine last week have arrived in the country.

Also announced today: the first German IRIS-T SL system has arrived in Ukraine. This is a cutting-edge, short-range air defense system that's really designed to protect a specific area. Germany has promised a total four of these to Ukraine, and they are manufacturing them as fast as they can.

So, this one might possibly get delivered to Kyiv, to protect the city from the kind of attacks it had yesterday. The way I understand it, the IRIS system is really better oriented to protecting cities than it is to protecting troops on the battlefield.
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:26 pm to
Old video of training. No return fire.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:31 pm to
We fly out in the AM, can't wait! :) I'll probably post some over the next week. Once the grands go to bed, we usually just sit around and surf and talk.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 9:10 pm
Posted by OGtigerfan87
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:34 pm to
It was a popular uprising against an extremely unpopular puppet government that was working for the interest of Russia and not is own people. It wasn’t some CIA inspired coup that took place in the middle of the night. Did we encourage it, sure and we should have.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:34 pm to
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There was no call in any of those areas to become Russian pre invasion.
Ahhh! There must have been fierce resistance to the invasion then. What was the Russian casualty count? Perhaps one of us missed that? OTOH, maybe Russian casualties were peculiarly low, given the operation. So? What were Ukrainian casualties?

Now then, don't you feel silly for being silly under the auspices of seriousness?

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FTR, my wife inherited an interest in an oil lease in Mississippi, she sold it to the operator not wanting to fool with 50 cents a month royalty payments.
10% of US oil production, CK. 10%!

I register your attempt at some credible recovery based on your wife's petty industry exposure. I'd be empathetic had you actually had a remote frigging clue as to WTF you were posting. You didn't. I'm not.

It's good she sold her interest.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:37 pm to
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puppet government
Ohhh boy ...

Either you don't know what a "puppet government" is, or your information comes from really bad sources.
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