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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Yep. Not our war, but will be. We’ve already funded it.


Yeah, warmonger, and until they invade NATO it’s not our problem. I remember these same arguments with Iraq and getting brutally insulted by those, so no, not gonna fall for it again, especially when the opposition has the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
866 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:12 pm to
Also, establishing a humanitarian no fly zone for a guy who bombs parks isn’t going to work.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105281 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:16 pm to
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Does Russia not fly electronic warfare planes ala the US Airforce Wild Weasels?




This is one of them. It didn't do so well.

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Do they not have radar-seeking missiles as we do with the HARM?

The plane above was carrying them.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15690 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:18 pm to
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Don’t know the exact price of wheat, but it being high enough where many can’t afford it and there are mass riots in Europe, done.


There may be riots in France due to gasoline shortage caused by all of the French refineries on strike.

Show me these riots across Europe.

They have enough fuel to last through the winter with natural gas left over. We haven't even shipped LNG as existing capacity online and more is coming back online within this year so will liquefaction plants and terminals be at 95+% utilization? Likely not.

The EU pricing is that the public pays for the cost for all based on cost of highest source. It's the EU regs pricing mechanism that is really FUBAR not lack of natural gas, coal or nuke power generation. Using natural gas in peaking plants is NOT an efficient use of natural gas. they likely don't even have propane storage as standby onsite to boost BTUs in times of need, like a really cold front moving through
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:19 pm to
What do you find genocidal about that statement? It’s an opinion of a lot of people and most likely the majority that this has to end with Putin’s removal. Usually people like Putin are evil enough don’t go quietly and have to be shown the door. His one life that he’s sent tens of thousands of Russians to die for nothing can end all this with just his life. That’s not genocidal, that’s facts and that’s the real world. You wouldn’t take Putin’s life to save another 25,000-50,000 Russians lives on top of the ones already lost? Because that is what’s coming with him sending waves of men with no training into the teeth of battle hardened Ukrainians on their homeland so they have nowhere to fall back to without losing their homes and lives. That won’t come cheap on either side. No man’s one life is worth that. Call me genocidal if you wish that’s fine with me.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 11:21 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15690 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:21 pm to
The dude must have gotten his degrees in business and language from kissing prof icons, or a Cracker Jack box
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74242 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:26 pm to
This war will destroy forever Russia's superpower status. The best out come is Putin gone.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:27 pm to
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What do you find genocidal about that statement?


What saying anything less than Putin rotting in our prisons is unacceptable? Ummm, yes you’re drunk on war if you don’t think there’s anything wrong with that statement. You are fricking insane if you think that’s a rational opinion that won’t lead to the deaths of tens of millions of people.

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It’s an opinion of a lot of people


Yeah, and people are fricking idiots.

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Usually people like Putin are evil enough don’t go quietly and have to be shown the door.


And how long has that “usually” had nuclear weapons on the table?

I’m sorry, Pilot, thanks for doubling down on your genocidal idiocy again. I double down myself what I said about you.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:29 pm to
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This war will destroy forever Russia's superpower status. The best out come is Putin gone.


While I think the world will be a better place when Putin is no longer breathing, are we sure about this? We don’t know who Putin’s successor is. He’s evil and a horrible person, but from a practical perspective this may not be true.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:38 pm to
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While I think the world will be a better place when Putin is no longer breathing, are we sure about this? We don’t know who Putin’s successor is. He’s evil and a horrible person, but from a practical perspective this may not be true.

I'll take my chances.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:38 pm to
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While I think the world will be a better place when Putin is no longer breathing, are we sure about this? We don’t know who Putin’s successor is. He’s evil and a horrible person, but from a practical perspective this may not be true.


The institutional project inside Russia will take decades to rebuild, as they are dealing with a severe demographic crisis along with the reality that oil wealth can only take them so far. It doesn’t matter who Putin’s successor is, as even Putin with all his power could not do anything about the demographics.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:41 pm to
OML has told us for the 500th time that he opposed the Iraq War and got insulted for it.
Does everyone get this?
He has also called the 1000th person on here a genocidal war monger.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:43 pm to
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He has also called the 1000th person on here a genocidal war monger.
And because they want an actual genocidal war monger eliminated from the world.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:43 pm to
I know you’ve never served a day in your life so let me in on a little secret for you. No President, ours or Putin, can launch nukes all by himself. It’s not an easy process and any member of the chain can stop the launch. This is for crazy people just like Putin. This never ends with Putin in a U.S. or any prison for that matter. This ends with Putin either admitting his mistake invading and pulling his troops back to pre invasion lines or he gets thrown from office living or not really doesn’t matter. He’s not going to pull back that is clear and he’s not going to use nukes because 1. It’s not just him that can decide, and 2. he knows the response from NATO and the west if he does use even battlefield nukes. Anyone with simple comprehension can see this. Seriously the more I see you post the more I really think you’re 15 or at least hope you are.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 11:44 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:51 pm to
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I know you’ve never served a day in your life so let me in on a little secret for you.


I’m listening.

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No President, ours or Putin, can launch nukes all by himself. It’s not an easy process and any member of the chain can stop the launch. This is for crazy people just like Putin.


I agree, which is why I am really ripping into Fauci. This is the positive of the potential nuclear holocaust vs viral holocaust. It’s a line of command with nuclear holocaust but only takes one idiot lab assistant for a viral one. You’re preaching to the choir here.

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This never ends with Putin in a U.S. or any prison for that matter. This ends with Putin either admitting his mistake invading and pulling his troops back to pre invasion lines or he gets thrown from office living or not really doesn’t matter.


Yeah, well it’s not going to happen. Maybe Putin is killed by his underlings, but neither of those is going to happen.

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He’s not going to pull back that is clear and he’s not going to use nukes because 1.


Such arrogance. Yeah I would tell Putin to frick off with nuclear launch if I was in that position, but he may have the people in line who will do it. Such fricking arrogance thinking it can’t happen.

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It’s not just him that can decide, and 2. he knows the response from NATO and the west if he does use even battlefield nukes. Anyone with simple comprehension can see this.


What if he doesn’t give a frick and his underlings don’t give a frick? You refuse to acknowledge this.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30451 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:57 pm to
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genocidal


You never seem to display anything more than a sledgehammer command of English. Outside of a couple of "the only good commie is a dead commie" posters no one advocates for genocide in the thread. The fact you think something they propose will result in genocide does not mean they think what they proposed will result in genocide. It is similar to calling someone a liar when they honestly believe what they stated despite being objectively wrong.

You are horrible at dealing with nuance and in turn, it is one of your blindspots because you can't comprehend anyone else viewing the world in anything but your binary options. I imagine German has a long but nonetheless elegant word for someone that lives in a constant state of impending doom but my limited command of German leaves me with just calling it anxiety disorder. That by itself must be horrible but it must be a brutal life when your happiness rides on being right about some catastrophic occurrence. This leaves you in a state where just below the surface you are craving those doom predictions to manifest.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:47 am to
Most people choose life or death. Not everyone is Vlad Putin. Hitler went down with the ship but all his minions scattered like rats.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 8:57 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:21 am to
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was right about October which I’ve been saying since May. My track record is good especially when that arrives right on schedule. I said there’d be a major escalation this month. I was correct.


Dude there has been a major escalation almost every month since this thing began but go ahead and give yourself a pat on the back if it makes you feel better and act like you got some soothsayer ability

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Again, I let that guide me through Russia’s reaction, and I was spot on. I’ve said for months it would be October when Russia escalated things, and I was correct even if people want to change the definition of that word


Are you saying Russias missles attacks are the major escalation? You know they did the same thing Last month so this isn't new.

Hell you are also ignoring the major escalation of actually annexing territory but yeah go ahead and say how right you were that October, not the prior months, is actually Russia doing a major escalation
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 1:26 am
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:39 am to
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OMLandshark


Oml,

I thought you said you were told to leave this thread alone by an Admin?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53712 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:06 am to
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They have enough fuel to last through the winter with natural gas left over.


Then why are they turning the lights off?
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