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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:19 pm to
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It’s the 10th and it’s escalated. I think the true shite show begins in the next two months. No, this is an escalation to one degree or another I thought would happen. Just wait another few weeks.


What has been the escalation and don't say Russia targeting Kyiv and other cities outside the conventional battlespace with missiles since this is far from the first time since February.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:22 pm to
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Show me the posts man. I don't care what you are saying now, because what I want is evidence of your supposed prescience. Post the proof.


OK, I was banned for most of May and am sure I can find one in early June, but here’s one from July warning you personally about October. Sorry, just one I could find in 10 minutes:

quote:

My point is resolving this war as quickly as possible would also resolve those two issues you point out and are going to be a major worldwide issue come October. I truly think what I’m advocating for will save many lives


So first one I found after researching, will dig further. Again, I still think I’m largely right about this.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:23 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:24 pm to
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What has been the escalation and don't say Russia targeting Kyiv and other cities outside the conventional battlespace with missiles since this is far from the first time since February.


It’s been an escalation due to Russia targeting Kyiv and other cities outside the conventional battlespace with missiles.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:25 pm to
It will be interesting to see what else Russia does in response to the bridge attack. Beyond lobbing cruise missiles into Ukraine and trying to take down the electrical grid, what other actions does Russia have available to them without resorting to WMDs? Last night, while deadly, would hardly be considered anything but a tepid response if they don't do something else.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:25 pm to
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Beyond lobbing cruise missiles into Ukraine and trying to take down the electrical grid, what other actions does Russia have available to them without resorting to WMDs?


That’s the big question IMO.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:29 pm to
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LINK


1200 is about a 29% move from here. Almost impossible before Nov 1st unless there is a serious crisis.

Out of curiosity I checked the options trading on weat right now, and for Nov4 22 calls you basically could pay like $50 and get $200 back if it hits 1200 so the bet doesnt quite make sense to take in any event


Shhhhhh

There is going to be a global food crisis. Listen to OML.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:32 pm to
It's almost a rhetorical question, as I don't see anything else Russia could do that would not look weak and ultimately ineffectual.

They can't send their strategic bomber fleet over Ukraine to carpet bomb a city. Ukraine would cause massive unreplaceable losses for Russia. Russia's strategic bomber fleet is much like ours in the sense that neither of us wants to lose any of them.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:32 pm to
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So first one I found after researching, will dig further. Again, I still think I’m largely right about this.


Again, the price of wheat at the moment doesn't indicate disruption. It didn't indicate it then either. The price has fallen since your post you dim moron.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:33 pm to
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It’s been an escalation due to Russia targeting Kyiv and other cities outside the conventional battlespace with missiles


Jesus man, it's like the details of this war don't matter to you.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:34 pm to
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Yeah, but isn’t it weird I’ve been ranting about October for six months, and happens nearly right when the month starts? I’m sorry, you need Devil’s advocate here, and we’re all told to shut the frick up.


It’s weird you think one coordinated missile offensive who’s intended damage was/is repaired very quickly is proof positive to your predictions of escalation. You’ve grasped at the first available straw Russia could muster to plant your flag. Maybe you’re right by 10/31, but this ain’t it.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:38 pm to
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So first one I found after researching, will dig further. Again, I still think I’m largely right about this.


That doesn’t say anything about escalation on the battlefield. Grain is being exported from Ukraine. OPEC has more to do with recent price movement in oil than Russia.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:39 pm to
Since the early days of the war, these questions have pinballed around the cavern between my ears.

Does Russia not fly electronic warfare planes ala the US Airforce Wild Weasels?

Do they not have radar-seeking missiles as we do with the HARM?

Why haven't we seen multi-squadron strike packages from Russia?

Are MANPADS so effective that they simply deny the enemy the airspace?

How does the US counter the MANPAD threat to maintain air superiority over a battlefield?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:40 pm to
Why must you insist on calling people genocidal maniacs anytime they don’t agree with your very extreme views? It makes you look either young and immature or just stupid at any age who doesn’t think before he speaks and can dish it but can’t take it back in return. This is probably why you were asked not to post.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:50 pm to
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Why must you insist on calling people genocidal maniacs anytime they don’t agree with your very extreme views?


If you want to escalate this to a possible World War III, it’s true. I mean if you don’t see anything wrong with this post, then you’re the problem. From earlier today:

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Agreed, these missile attacks on civilian targets are the only option that Putin knows. He has used terror against the Russian people for the last twenty-five years. And it's worked. The reason it isn't working now is that he's dealing with Ukrainians. People with agency, people that will up his ante every time and never back down.

Negotiations...? It's now the law in Ukraine and clear to anyone listening - no negotiations possible unless Putin is out. Really out. Like dead or in a Western prison. We've got a long way to go before we get there, but we'll get there. Any other take on this is uninformed to say the least.



Im sorry, you have to be completely insane and genocidal to say this. While I’ve accused you of such, yeah you’ve been completely eclipsed by that quote assuming you don’t agree with it. But it’s got 11 upvotes and two downvotes. That’s genocidal and would lead to at least an eight figure if not nine figure death toll. Someone like Coeur du Tigre is completely fricked in the head. I look at him as equivalent as this:



Coeur is either very dumb or very evil. There’s no in between.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 10:52 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150130 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:51 pm to
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This is probably why you were asked not to post.
and yet he still does
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22342 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:55 pm to
The Russians keep using thermobaric munitions against Ukrainian civilians. You don’t see anything wrong with that?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:56 pm to
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Since the early days of the war, these questions have pinballed around the cavern between my ears.

Does Russia not fly electronic warfare planes ala the US Airforce Wild Weasels?

Do they not have radar-seeking missiles as we do with the HARM?

Why haven't we seen multi-squadron strike packages from Russia?

Are MANPADS so effective that they simply deny the enemy the airspace?

How does the US counter the MANPAD threat to maintain air superiority over a battlefield?


Again, you need to go back to the GPD and share of GDP comparisons to really grasp what's going on here.

Russia is a bit of a medium fry when it comes to total spending and, thus, capability. There is the US which is, still and by far, the hyper-dominant global power when it comes to capability and reach. Then there is China which is likely a fraction of the US' capability and reach but gaining a bit here and there and investing in certain key strategic areas.

Then there is everyone else who are all grouped pretty closely together, but it's India, Russia, the UK, and France. Russia is nothing special among that group, and that was obvious before the invasion. If the US was never involved in this war, I am extremely confident that the UK and France would be able to handle Russia with some ease without our help; that is how shitty the Russian military is.

They spend a decent amount on quantity of armor, IFVs, 1970's era SEAD tech, 1970s era fighter bombers, and so on. That gets you to somewhat being able to fight a NATO force from the 1990's (and an American force from the late 1970's, maybe, but from what I've seen, we would still have a serious edge). The current state and disposition of their service is not good.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:01 pm to
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The Russians keep using thermobaric munitions against Ukrainian civilians. You don’t see anything wrong with that?


I’m so fricking sick of this retarded point from you warmongers. Yes, Russia is in the wrong. I’ve had to say this maybe a thousand fricking times during over this incident and it’s not nearly as clever of a retort as you think it.

It’s not our fricking concern is the thing. We’re not the world police and this could spiral out of control to nuclear annihilation. Sorry to the Ukrainians, feel bad for them, but no we’re not going to World War III for them. Zelensky can frick right off demanding we do so.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:04 pm to
Yep. Not our war, but will be. We’ve already funded it.
Posted by Jameson2954
Member since Mar 2022
866 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:09 pm to
Putin missed the entire bridge. Lol.
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