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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:02 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:02 am to
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Single most consequential act of this war save for Russia moving the first piece of military hardware over the border.

I hope the calculus on this gambit is correct.


I've only been involved with industrial implosion, cat crackers and boilers
That multiple roadway sections below and train with tank cars on the rail span above are in flames sure seems like on the spot demo and not rocket, artillery or drone to me
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:07 am to
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I am very interested in how this was accomplished. Russia had been on high alert for months.



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Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:07 am to
Probably a US drone strike. Lol
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:10 am to
Inept Russian SEALS bombed their own bridge.

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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:10 am to
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To my knowledge, I've never called you out for anything, not sure why you think I pissed in your cereal.


Fair. Shouldn’t have called you a dumb frick given there’s nothing personal between us. My apology, but I do think me warning about October for months, my fears have now been validated over this action. But apologies to you specifically.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:11 am to
Thank you, accepted
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:15 am to
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Thank you, accepted


Edited in the thread as well in big bolded letters. Again, apologies.
Posted by Sooner5030
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:16 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:16 am to
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Now that's bullshite. How could a tank explode so easily? It's just like that?? Or were the ukrams really given rockets that reach the bridge?


Flying debris could have sparked a fire but the odds of a missile or drone hitting the bridge at the same time a train is passing seems too coincidental to me. Also the whole section or roadway didn't shatter it moved off. I well remember a tank truck fire on an overpass in Houston, it took months to replace that one section or roadway warped by the heat of the fire.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:22 am to
Preliminary indication from Russia is they're going with the accident hypothesis
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:24 am to
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Preliminary indication from Russia is they're going with the accident hypothesis


There’s no one dumb enough to believe that, especially given winter is here.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:25 am to
If u look I. The short clip of the bridge on fire u can see the section of the rail bridge is twisted.

It’s had to tell, but it doesn’t look tile the section of cad bridge was damage at the piles. It almost looks like the section was lifted up and was knocked off the piles.

Reminds me of the section of I-10 from Slidell to NO east that was lifted up by Katrina.

Could the tanker car exploded and the force of the shock wave lifter the section? That’s a lot of weight, so not sure it is even possible. But the car bridge doesn’t appear to have and visible “fire” damage….
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:27 am to
Never under estimate the Russian Governments ability to lie to its people.

Remember according to the Russian government it was a cigarette that sunk the Moskova and blew up the Crimean airfield.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:33 am to
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Never under estimate the Russian Governments ability to lie to its people.

Remember according to the Russian government it was a cigarette that sunk the Moskova and blew up the Crimean airfield.


I mean, all this may be true, but this is throwing stones from glass houses after 2020.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:37 am to
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I mean, all this may be true, but this is throwing stones from glass houses after 2020.


Sorry, don't follow you on this one.

I was just pointing out that while you and I know they'd be lying about it, they are more than capable of doing just that to their population.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:37 am to
Welp the Rolex market will take another leg down. Maybe I can afford that Pepsi GMT now.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:39 am to
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Reminds me of the section of I-10 from Slidell to NO east that was lifted up by Katrina.


I can't wrap my head around the damage. The road span looks more like storm damage than explosive damage. None of the pictures I have seen show anything that looks like explosive damage. It is quite odd.

Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:40 am to
Undersea explosion/shockwave?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:45 am to
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Undersea explosion/shockwave?


That was a thought but seems a high chance of failure.

I just don't see how Ukraine even got in their. This has the look of an 8 hour swim with rebreathers with very small very well-prepared charges like ribbon charges.

Maybe I will wake up tomorrow and someone will have a more reasonable explanation but the lack of visible damage has me flummoxed. Then again there are a lot of new toys in the world that I am unaware of.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:48 am to
Bolding added by me. From the Russian Z Telegram channel.
https://t.me/c/1552544518/6093?single
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??A ferry service is being prepared for launch in Crimea.

All logistics schemes in case of emergency have been worked out, the adviser to the head of the peninsula said.

"Traffic through the Crimean bridge has been stopped until the circumstances are clarified, special services are working on the spot" - acting. Minister of Transport of Crimea Nikolay Lukashenko.

Crimea is also provided with a supply of fuel and food.

One thing worries me now - what will happen to the provision of boys at the front???


Watch for the Ukrainian attack on Melitopol to kick off now. With the bridge down, the only supply route to Kherson flows through Melitopol. If Ukraine takes that, then all of the Russian Troops in the southern part of the country are going to be hurting for supplies.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 12:49 am
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