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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:54 pm to
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There was an article from a few weeks ago about China taking a step back to incorporate lessons learned from the Ukraine war into their own military planning.


Bc they use the same doctrine as Russia

Still won’t change anything bc like Russia nothing on the battlefield happens with out generals saying so

Western doctrine let’s junior officers and ncos make real time decisions
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:54 pm to
Upvote if you believed so strongly in this conflict that you risked all to the cause and volunteered to help the poor Ukraine's defeat the Russians.

Downvote if you didn't and are just playing make believe soldier in this thread.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:59 pm to
New update from Rybar on Lyman

https://t.me/rybar/39588
quote:

?????????? The situation in the Liman direction
as of 20.00 September 30, 2022

After the withdrawal from Drobyshevo and Yampol, the defense of the RF Armed Forces was built along the outskirts of Liman and the buffer zone around the Liman-Zarechnoye-Torskoye road. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to completely block the corridor, but the Russian troops have so far successfully repulsed the strikes.

According to preliminary estimates, at least 6,000 Ukrainian servicemen and foreign mercenaries are involved in the attack on Liman. Armored groups are trying to advance from Drobyshevo, Stavkov, Dibrovo and Yampol to Liman itself.

From the side of the Torsk Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, reinforcements were transferred, including artillery, MLRS and armored vehicles. Near Yampol and to the north of the Liman there are oncoming maneuver battles.

To the north of Zarechny, the Ukrainian military, with the support of armored vehicles, tried to enter Terny along the dam across the Zherebets River, but were driven out from there by the approaching units of the RF Armed Forces and withdrew to the western bank in Ivanovka.

In order to strengthen the onslaught, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hastily transfer units from near Seversk and Soledar, reserves from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. They have to partly expose the Soledar direction, where units of the Wagner PMC, NM LPR and DPR are advancing.

The situation remains extremely tense, but for now the RF Armed Forces still control Liman and hold back the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If the allied forces manage to hold back the onslaught, defend the city and inflict heavy losses on the attacking Ukrainian forces, then the Russian troops will actually seize the initiative. In this case, the situation at the front can change dramatically.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Upvote if you believed so strongly in this conflict that you risked all to the cause and volunteered to help the poor Ukraine's defeat the Russians.

Downvote if you didn't and are just playing make believe soldier in this thread.



ummm pretty frickign sure 99% in hear have repeatedly said no boots on the ground unless they attack nato. but cheering on ukraine to repeal a russian invasion or being glad that we are giving them weapons doesnt mean you are playing make beleive soldier


quote:

Errerrerrwere


have you ever served? because i have and quite a few in this thread have so how about saving the bullshite about "playing" soldier for a while.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479042 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:14 pm to
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but cheering on ukraine to repeal a russian invasion or being glad that we are giving them weapons doesnt mean you are playing make beleive soldier

Dude, listen.

These people who constantly parrot talking points that originated in Russia and who refuse to criticize Russia/Putin without a "yeah but" response, and who seem to only want to reference negative behavior by the US, and who selectively choose timelines to shield Russia from criticism...they're TOTALLY not defending Russia/Putin.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Iodine tablets are used to sterilize water for drinking... Potassium Iodide is for radiation protection


The Russians have never had them before. Also the Russians might be distributing anything with iodine in it to give their troops the feeling that they are being protected. It’s also possible that it’s part of a bluff to scare the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. It’s also possible that my sauce(s) don’t know the difference and is reading too much into it.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Dude, listen.

These people who constantly parrot talking points that originated in Russia and who refuse to criticize Russia/Putin without a "yeah but" response, and who seem to only want to reference negative behavior by the US, and who selectively choose timelines to shield Russia from criticism...they're TOTALLY not defending Russia/Putin.





its laughable.. i mean half the poliboard would have you beleive ole putin is just doing this trying to save humanity and expose biden and the west so trump could come back.

i mean i voted for trump twice and would never vote for a democrat on the federal level but fricking get a god damn grip :lol: :lol:

btw hoping we get through this next month without having to email each other due to a storm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479042 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:24 pm to
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btw hoping we get through this next month without having to email each other due to a storm

Yes. I probably won't be coming back if that happens.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Errerrerrwere


You so hard man
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Yes. I probably won't be coming back if that happens.



yea well i dont have the same choice unfortunately.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Upvote if you believed so strongly in this conflict that you risked all to the cause and volunteered to help the poor Ukraine's defeat the Russians.

Downvote if you didn't and are just playing make believe soldier in this thread.


Here's an alternative poll, Upvote if you think Errerrerrwere's IQ is below 80, and downvote if you think his IQ is below 80.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Xi was critical of Putin after the last meeting.

Let me rephrase - Xi isn’t necessarily sending military support to Putin anytime soon.

But if China’s goal is to take Taiwan, which chain of events creates better conditions for that to happen?

If the rest of the world is suffering, or is pre-occupied with Russia, then China operates without as much pushback.

I don’t see how a swift resolution/defeat/retreat of Russia in Ukraine would be better for China’s ambitions.


Largely agree, particularly as we’ve seen the European weakness to help one of their own and depleted American stockpiles in carrying the load. I also wonder how much they’ve put off sending equipment to Russia for the same reason we were slow to send to Ukraine in the beginning, expectation poor performance this leaving behind for your larger enemy.

I do believe this has cause delays in Chinas plans for Taiwan, but agree the longer this goes and the more resources are sent to Ukraine, the better Chinas outlook on their goals in Taiwan become. Plus, as long as this goes on they get discounted energy from Russia while the world still needs their cheap goods and labor.
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
629 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Exactly how expedient can this "speedy application" to join NATO be?
Look at Sweden and Finland’s application process. If there is political will it can be done quickly.
Sweden and Finland are not in NATO yet. Turkey and Hungary have not approved their joining, which (under current treaties) is required. Source: Wikipedia. Whether much less when they are admitted remains to be seen. I suspect not a whole lot longer, but both Turkey and Hungary are playing every opportunity to leverage this, both with NATO and with the EU. Stay tuned on that.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Here's an alternative poll, Upvote if you think Errerrerrwere's IQ is below 80, and downvote if you think his IQ is below 80.


It won’t let me vote twice.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Errerrerrwere

$20 you never served and are just playing Billy Badass.

A vast majority of us who post in this thread, including myself, did.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:49 pm to
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It won’t let me vote twice.


Sorry, This poll is run by republicans
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Upvote if you believed so strongly in this conflict that you risked all to the cause and volunteered to help the poor Ukraine's defeat the Russians. Downvote if you didn't and are just playing make believe soldier in this thread.


Where do you vote if you are sending your surrogate via tax dollars to help Ukraine kick some Russian butt?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

$20 you never served and are just playing Billy Badass.


Neat. Thats not what this thread is about, dork.

quote:

A vast majority of us who post in this thread, including myself, did.


Sorry. I'll give your dad some investment tips for college and a better future for you and your family... seriously, who gives a frick?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:53 pm to
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sending your surrogate via tax dollars


Define Hoodwinked
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:54 pm to
well, evidently you do since you posed the original question the responses are addressing.
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