Started By
Message

re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:15 pm to
(no message)
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21048 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Meh. I disagree. He gets a C- in my book. Sanctions not strong enough and the USA is atleast three months behind on supplying weapons systems to Ukraine. Imagine if Ukraine had gotten HIMARS in March when they requested them? I’m willing to bet that Severodonetsk wouldn’t have fallen. Ukrainian pilots should be finishing up training on F16s and Ukrainian tankers should be finishing up learning how to use M1A1s right now instead of the USA just now considering supplying those weapons to Ukraine.


I kinda agree with that, but the flip side is that Biden has carefully led France, Germany, and most of Europe into providing weapons to Ukraine.

If Biden had done as you suggest, France and Germany might have become indignant, and European anger about high gas prices might be more widespread. It might have meant the loss of a unified European policy.

The careful approach kept Scholz and Macron on board.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16148 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:49 pm to
Now listen to Zelenskyy's address.

Zelenskyy address to the UN General Assembly
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12636 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:02 pm to
The US Intelligence sharing has also been strong - and contributed to the airstrikes being so successful
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:15 pm to
Not directed at you!

Screw Ukraine! Or at least the the top of the chain of Ukraine. Anyone know the history behind this? After Bush 1 had Gobechev sign an agreement to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, NATO would not add anymore countries. What happened. We/NATO lied. Putin kept warning them don’t inch closer. What does NATO do? Inch closer.

Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO was the last straw for Putin. I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report.

Soros has brought his color revelolution into Ukraine. WEF/Schwab continuing to push for NWO- own nothing and be happy, Nazii’s are part of their military and Zhelinsky is a coke head actor. What kind of leader wears t-shirts?

Why are we giving sooooo much money too them? DC doesn’t give a shite about our own country and citizens. Our Swamp is laundering you taxes, well your great, great, great grandchildrens taxes to get rich and keep the Fed rolling. The Fed may crash without their printing machine humming loudly.

The MSM lies daily about Ukraine advances here/there. Lies. Don’t believe me. Fine. MSM is truthful about this, Covid, the election,Trump????

The Swamp is Huge! Biden’s sanctions are laughable. Putin and the Ruble are doing great. Their inflation has dropped, ours? I don’t want innocent people to die but I do want the Deep State terminated. Get ‘em Putin!
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

After Bush 1 had Gobechev sign an agreement to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, NATO would not add anymore countries.


Never happened. In fact, one of the few documents NATO and Russia did sign, the NATO/Russia Founding Act explicitly stated that NATO reserved the right to expand as it saw fit.

quote:

Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO was the last straw for Putin. I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report.


Fighting his own deep state? What?

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

China warns West that Putin is in Life or Death struggle; May nuke Europe




Why didn't they warn Putin? If Europe can be held hostage by Putin with gas and nuclear weapons, why not just give the whole continent to him? You let media do all your thinking for you, and you consume way too much of it. Log off for your own sake.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:36 pm to
Via GoodRX, you can get a 30-day supply of Lithium for $4.38.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:43 pm to
Setting aside the question of if Biden being elected or Biden boofing the Afghan exit is a proximate cause, I give him and his admin pretty high marks in the response. Telling the world what would happen in February and opening the intelligence was a great move. And although I personally would have liked to see a more muscular US response early as WeeWee said, I agree with GOP that this moment requires coalition building and Biden has the whole EU largely talking with one voice. That wasn’t a given when this started.

It’s a really tricky thing to navigate an European land war and all in all I think Biden and the US has mostly shined.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30696 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:00 am to
quote:

Screw Ukraine! Or at least the the top of the chain of Ukraine. Anyone know the history behind this? After Bush 1 had Gobechev sign an agreement to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, NATO would not add anymore countries. What happened. We/NATO lied.


False.

quote:

Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO was the last straw for Putin. I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report.


While Ukraine has been told no Putin's aggression pushes them closer and closer to NATO and being a jackass has shifted Sweden and Finland into NATO's arms. Brlilliant moves.

It is downright insane to say " I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report." A "good" kleptocrat with a net worth of a couple of hundred BILLION dollars when he has never made more than $140,000 per year at his job. He is the ultimate thief who has enabled oligarchs to own Russia. If there is a deep state in Russia the former FSB agent is the head of it.

quote:

The MSM lies daily about Ukraine advances here/there. Lies. Don’t believe me. Fine. MSM is truthful about this,


MSM links are extremely rare ITT and as a general rule we pay almost no attention to it primarily because it is 24-72 hours late reporting things on the ground.

At least you are honest about your love for Putin.

Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:06 am to
quote:

Not directed at you! Screw Ukraine! Or at least the the top of the chain of Ukraine. Anyone know the history behind this? After Bush 1 had Gobechev sign an agreement to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, NATO would not add anymore countries. What happened. We/NATO lied. Putin kept warning them don’t inch closer. What does NATO do? Inch closer. Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO was the last straw for Putin. I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report. Soros has brought his color revelolution into Ukraine. WEF/Schwab continuing to push for NWO- own nothing and be happy, Nazii’s are part of their military and Zhelinsky is a coke head actor. What kind of leader wears t-shirts? Why are we giving sooooo much money too them? DC doesn’t give a shite about our own country and citizens. Our Swamp is laundering you taxes, well your great, great, great grandchildrens taxes to get rich and keep the Fed rolling. The Fed may crash without their printing machine humming loudly. The MSM lies daily about Ukraine advances here/there. Lies. Don’t believe me. Fine. MSM is truthful about this, Covid, the election,Trump???? The Swamp is Huge! Biden’s sanctions are laughable. Putin and the Ruble are doing great. Their inflation has dropped, ours? I don’t want innocent people to die but I do want the Deep State terminated. Get ‘em Putin!


what an idiot
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17356 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:18 am to
Darth Putin tweets an astute observation.

LINK

Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2676 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:53 am to
Your stance is ironic for a “Georgia fan”
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:27 am to
quote:

If Russia falls or gets sufficiently preoccupied, Israel will absolutely make a move on Iran.

And then I genuinely do believe all hell could break loose.
Possibly, but the Israelis may not have to get involved in Iran. This has been going on for a full six days now with no signs of respite.

Besides, Syria is the more obvious target for Israel now. Remove Assad, let Qatar run the pipeline from the Persian Gulf straight into Turkey / the EU - profit.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:44 am to
quote:

immobileman
Let's see how many buzzwords we can find in one post...

Swamp, Soros, NWO, Deep State, Expose the West, MSM, Schwab, Nazis, Laundering, Covid

I'm pretty bummed you couldn't throw in Hunter Biden in there somewhere
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45740 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:15 am to
quote:

I kinda agree with that, but the flip side is that Biden has carefully led France, Germany, and most of Europe into providing weapons to Ukraine.




Biden has been dragged along by Poland and the Czech Republic and Slovakia. He hasn’t led once in this whole damn war.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41319 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:16 am to
quote:

I kinda agree with that, but the flip side is that Biden has carefully led France, Germany, and most of Europe into providing weapons to Ukraine.


Has Germany delivered what they promised?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45740 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:18 am to
quote:

Screw Ukraine! Or at least the the top of the chain of Ukraine. Anyone know the history behind this? After Bush 1 had Gobechev sign an agreement to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, NATO would not add anymore countries. What happened. We/NATO lied. Putin kept warning them don’t inch closer. What does NATO do? Inch closer. Ukraine’s possible entry into NATO was the last straw for Putin. I truly think he is a good guy fighting against his own deep state while trying to expose the West for all our wrongdoings that CNN/Fox won’t report. Soros has brought his color revelolution into Ukraine. WEF/Schwab continuing to push for NWO- own nothing and be happy, Nazii’s are part of their military and Zhelinsky is a coke head actor. What kind of leader wears t-shirts? Why are we giving sooooo much money too them? DC doesn’t give a shite about our own country and citizens. Our Swamp is laundering you taxes, well your great, great, great grandchildrens taxes to get rich and keep the Fed rolling. The Fed may crash without their printing machine humming loudly. The MSM lies daily about Ukraine advances here/there. Lies. Don’t believe me. Fine. MSM is truthful about this, Covid, the election,Trump???? The Swamp is Huge! Biden’s sanctions are laughable. Putin and the Ruble are doing great. Their inflation has dropped, ours?


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16148 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Besides, Syria is the more obvious target for Israel now. Remove Assad, let Qatar run the pipeline from the Persian Gulf straight into Turkey / the EU - profit.


There was a pipeline from Saudi Arabia already but for crude oil. Saudi Arabia is not going to allow a pipeline from Qatar to go through its territory. They are NOT friends and Libya ended up being a proxy war between the two after Qaddafi was killed. Dumbest move ever was backing the rebels in Libya without any plan for after its leader was gone.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:45 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16148 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:03 am to
You might need this advice...

LINK

This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 7:04 am
first pageprev pagePage 1766 of 5046Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram