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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:56 am to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15807 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:56 am to
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more pissed that the Biden Administration has spent 6 TRILLION dollars and not taken care of the troops than I


I totally agree.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15735 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:08 am to
Well, F-35 purchases have been halted after discovering that a titanium alloy PART manufactured by a 3rd tier US manufacturer was using a Chinese sourced titanium alloy.

My guess is that the titanium ore came from, China, Russia or Ukraine, and alloyed in China before being shipped here. I don't think that there is any Titanium in the USA to be mined.

Note the the SR-71 used titanium from the USSR during the Cold War.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17714 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:10 am to
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You take issue with what I said


I agree that we should do it. Where we disagree is you believe we shouldn't do anything else until we fix the internal issues. We will never have all of our internal issues fully resolved. I agree it needs higher priority than it currently holds. However, we cannot wait for a day that will never come prior to addressing geopolitical issues.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6085 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:12 am to
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I'm more pissed that the Biden Administration has spent 6 TRILLION dollars and not taken care of the troops than I am that they spent $100 Billion to destroy Russia's army without losing any American service members. In my thinking, that $100B expense is going to pay itself back several fold.


BTW, I was very amused when you responded saying this on a poli board thread. Taking into account, the nature of that place and all of your upvotes, it went way over their heads.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15735 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:14 am to
We haven't even actually spent $50B even in equipment, in Ukriane.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:17 am to
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If you down vote taking care of Americans first it only shows you're not an American or you're against this country.

It’s not an either or decision.

The fact is our leaders do not consider border security, issues with our soldiers, and etc. as a high priority; or they would spend money to fix these issues.

Instead they spend money to adjust the climate, Covid, or on special interests.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55520 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:29 am to
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I never said you don't have a right to disagree but if you do then you're not a true American nor believe in putting us first. If you feel it's divisive it's because you know what I said has merit.

You believe this because you have a poor understanding of the situation. If America did not intercede to stop the Russians in Ukraine they would have succeeded. Then they would have reconquered Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, etc. This would have been devastating to the people of the US, who would have ended up paying $300 per BBL for oil.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:41 am to
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We haven't actually given $100 Billion of cash to Ukraine, a lot of that was for weapons that need to be replaced by our defense industry which means more jobs and $ into our economy. With Russia shitting the bed on the battlefield, no one is going to want shitty Russian weapons, we're getting ready to sell $100's of billions of equipment to the world. At least we'll get something tangible from our Ukrainian assistance


To be fair, there is at least some cash transfer overseas in the form of Lockheed Martin employees paying for happy endings at that Asian massage parlor down the street from plant. Baws gotta relax after all that overtime.

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8166 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:18 am to
Here is some confirmed info for STDtiger

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1569393669484036096
quote:

A new???from
@TheStudyofWar
and
@criticalthreats
depicts total liberated Ukrainian territory as of September 11, 2022.

#Ukraine has liberated over 60,000 square km of territory since the Russians began retreating from around Kyiv in early April. Quick??below.


Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15807 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:18 am to
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You believe this because you have a poor understanding of the situation. If America did not intercede to stop the Russians in Ukraine they would have succeeded. Then they


That's an opinion based off of nothing. It's also a scare tactic. You have no substance to back your statement. I believe in America First.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8166 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:22 am to
This on the other hand is an unconfirmed report; however, it is inline with other unconfirmed reports.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1569722756492664834
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Russian reporting on the AFU breaking through the Russian positions at Davydiv Brid in Kherson Oblast, which has been in the line of contact for several weeks now.


Translated
quote:

ARCHANGEL SPECIAL Z 905 D 104.1K edited 16:58
D
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have broken through Davydov Ford,
the units of the Russian Guard have accepted the battle
and are fighting with the rising enemy forces!
God be with you guys!
Archangel of the Special Forces.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8166 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:30 am to
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1569655969814298630
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Russia's 4th Tank Division has two tank regiments, which each have ~93 T-80U variant tanks. With the most recent losses in Izyum, it has lost nearly a full regiment of T-80U variant tanks in Ukraine, or half its total that weren't in storage.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12319 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:37 am to
We get it. You believe in not sending funding to help Ukraine. You can have that opinion. Start another “America First” thread if you want to. But this constant thread hijacking is ridiculous.

Many here are in favor of supporting Ukraine. That is what is happening, and is what will continue to happen until this is over. That’s the topic we are trying to discuss. Deal with it.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:40 am to
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The principle that as Americans we should have the RIGHT to disagree without being made to feel like we are enemies of the state.


Tell that to Biden and his politicized DOJ.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:47 am to
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I believe in America First.


Your definition of America First is what?

But saying that means very little when the other says America needs to be first in climate control.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4011 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:48 am to
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This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20305 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:48 am to
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The principle that as Americans we should have the RIGHT to disagree without being made to feel like we are enemies of the state.


Tell that to Biden and his politicized DOJ.


No truer statement has ever been made.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8166 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:59 am to
The fact that I think we should have border control, energy independence, and not be teaching our young kids about transgenderism should not make me an enemy of the state.

quote:

No truer statement has ever been made.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12750 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:00 pm to
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This effects E-1 through E-4 ( at least in the Navy). You don't get money to live off base until E-5.

Then e-1 through e-4 get room and board for free.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1777 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Where we disagree is you believe we shouldn't do anything else until we fix the internal issues.


IMO, SOS is providing a classic example of the fallacy of relative privation. We can address both of these issues, just because the political will doesn’t exist to address problem A, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t address problem B.
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