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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Their reporting is running a couple of days behind, but they're reporting it.

Some people on Twitter have been ahead of this from the start. "Rumors" of Kharkiv offensive started maybe 2 weeks ago, but I don't think anyone realized it would be... this.

The Russian army was clearly ready to collapse for a while. Ukraine hasn't even sent huge numbers of forces forward.

Russia was always a paper tiger, and now they're facing 2-3 decades to rebuild.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:02 pm to
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1. I have personally driven on that minor highway during a medical mission trip to Ukraine and Russia back in 2013. Unless it has been upgraded it is so narrow that it is barely a two lane road (I had to pull over when a truck was coming the other way) and it has bridges that are only one lane. I drove on it when it was dry. I cannot imagine trying to use it as a major supply route during the Rasputitsia when culverts and bridges get washed away regularly.


The importance of terrain seems to be lost on most, even some experienced in the military with actually formulating strategy and tactics. The hills in the east have actually stalled Russian advances without any chance of Kurskesque tanks battles.

Taking Izyum months ago, one could see that Russians took valleys and highways but stalled when battling up hillsides. taking Popansa in the east meant advancing along a ridge and then out from a higher position than Ukrainian defenders.

I appreciate your first hand knowledge of terrain.

BTW, for the Politards, Putin is a reptilian.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:04 pm to


Look at the southeastern edge (the blue line at the bottom most part of the advance for you who cannot read maps) of the alleged advance. The Ukrainians have are approaching Dvorichna. Dvorichna is only 35 km from the Ukrainian and Russian border. The Ukrainians could be border and have liberated all of the Kharkiv Oblast by the morning.

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Wee Wee, these are showing what we expected.


I will admit, I did not expect them to move this fast.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:05 pm to
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How exactly does that 5 second video prove the ferris wheel is broken



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Visitors to the new Ferris wheel at VDNKh in Moscow complained about failures in its operation. This is reported by the telegram channel “Caution, Moscow”.

He notes that the attraction “Sun of Moscow” stopped several times, because of which people hovered at a height of 140 meters.
LINK

It was also posted on Russian telegram channels and local media. Of course, you do not believe anything so how about you get on a plane, and go to Moscow and tell us if it is working.
This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:09 pm to
I can't wait to read the behinds the scenes memoirs from this war.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:10 pm to
I'ma sure its going to be as well written as Saving Private Ryan
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:10 pm to
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If Ukraine is so solid now, why should I put them over what’s going on in my home state?


I bet Flint, MI water issues were/are a state & local issue to you. Just when we think you can’t get more embarrassing you post again.
This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:14 pm to
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Seriously though I think that may be at the root coupled with a healthy dose of schadenfreude.


This lightning strike by Ukraine is great but will it continue into the Luhansk Oblast? I’ve been following several social media conversations about the war and many are saying that the eastward movement will stop or slow down soon to avoid spreading the front too thin.

Have we prepared the Uke military for a sustained drive all the way through Luhansk? That would be devastating for Putin’s plans.

He gave the RF until Sept. 15 to take the rest of the Donestk Oblast. Obviously that’s not going to happen and Ukraine may be knocking on the Russian border’s door by then.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:16 pm to
:it's still real to me dammit:
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:16 pm to
You would think any trained soldier would destroy his vehicle if he had to abandon it so the other side can’t use it against them but these are the Russians we are talking about, nothing surprises me with these dumb fricks. At least pull the pin on a couple grenades and throw them in the vehicle or a Molotov cocktail but they just jump out and haul arse. Not complaining though, just means more military hardware for Ukraine to use. I’m hoping there is a large stock of 152 mm ammunition left behind so Ukraine can get some of their Soviet guns back online that they had to slow down or stop using all together due to shortages of 152 mm shells.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:17 pm to
The Kharkiv offense is impressive for sure. But how badly is Russia trying to defend it? I mean let’s be honest, Russia could’ve taken Kharkiv in the 1st week of the war I when they had the initiative if they really wanted it. I’d suspect Russia is focusing its defenses elsewhere.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:20 pm to
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1. I have personally driven on that minor highway during a medical mission trip to Ukraine and Russia back in 2013. Unless it has been upgraded it is so narrow that it is barely a two lane road (I had to pull over when a truck was coming the other way) and it has bridges that are only one lane. I drove on it when it was dry. I cannot imagine trying to use it as a major supply route during the Rasputitsia when culverts and bridges get washed away regularly.

The importance of terrain seems to be lost on most, even some experienced in the military with actually formulating strategy and tactics. The hills in the east have actually stalled Russian advances without any chance of Kurskesque tanks battles.

Taking Izyum months ago, one could see that Russians took valleys and highways but stalled when battling up hillsides. taking Popansa in the east meant advancing along a ridge and then out from a higher position than Ukrainian defenders.

I appreciate your first hand knowledge of terrain.


Bassed on google maps the Russians have upgraded it. That highway is the 14K-3 highway and here is what it looked like in
2013 vs 2018. It appears that I owe the Russians an apology because it appears that they actually did something right. However, it is still a big step down in supply lines. However, the situation has changed from even this morning. By the time the Rasputitsia hits Russia is not going to have to worry about trying to supply its forces in the Donbas if the reports from today are true.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:21 pm to
Are you a hipster guipster? Wipe that Putin pearl necklace off your mouth so you can speak more intelligently.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Errerrerrwere


Lot of veterans and current members of the armed forces in here, you were asked about your military service and you didnt respond.

Go ahead and do that now. You dont want to be some slap dick civilian talking shite in a war thread do ya?
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Kyiv doesn’t win the war or provide anything resourceful other than an added insurgency war against the Russians.


You and OML must be drinking that shite water in Jackson together
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:23 pm to
I think this sums the Russians up perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:23 pm to
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I will admit, I did not expect them to move this fast.


From what I read, RU is retreating to more favorable defensive positions and in many cases put up very little fight.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:26 pm to
I wonder where those more defensible positions actually are, back in Russia?
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:26 pm to
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more favorable defensive positions


God you people are worse than CNN

“Mostly peaceful protests”

“Mostly advantageous retreating”

Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:26 pm to
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I’d suspect Russia is focusing its defenses elsewhere.


I think the whole Russian system is in disarray and Putin is losing control, especially of the military. He’s a control freak, as are most dictators, and he can’t manage both internal problems and this war in Ukraine.

Russians, especially in the military are seeing him weaken and are becoming fed up with his control issues. I think he might be assassinated within the next 10-14 days.
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