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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:44 pm to
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Is the poli board still pretending this is a glorious Russian victory?




No they are in shock. They are currently asking if the war is real.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42610 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Eh, are they jamming their telephone signals?


They cut the strings between the cans.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:52 pm to
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No they are in shock. They are currently asking if the war is real.

Obviously not, but let's not tell them, yet.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42610 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:53 pm to
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.This war is over 8 years old and this invasion is over 6 months old. It just shows that Putin and Russia's leaders are incompetent military commanders. And you are General Patton I guess?


He’s an educated man with an opinion.
You are too. Do you believe it was a good idea for Russia to attack Ukraine at less than full strength and without the support of the Russian people?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:54 pm to
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Russian military


Will be treated humanely if their hands are clean

quote:

citizens who collaborated with Russia


Good luck
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Friday met with the head of Turkish defence firm Baykar and said the company would set up a factory in Ukraine to build unmanned aerial vehicles.
LINK

Looks like Ukraine is diversifying its military industrial complex to get ready for the next Russia-Ukraine war.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:57 pm to
Zelensky will not be bullied
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:57 pm to
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And you are General Patton I guess?


I am curious what are your military bona fides?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:58 pm to
Good thread by Rob Lee
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1568610879046037507

quote:

When I wrote about the battle for the Donbas, I thought that relative losses would likely be more important than territorial gains. I think Russia's gains in the Donbas were likely a Pyrrhic victory because they took heavy losses they couldn't afford, which is evident now.

Much of this comes back to Russia's unclear goals since April. Once it became clear that Russia couldn't seize or encircle Kyiv, Mykolaiv, Kharkiv, etc., its prospects for compelling Kyiv were weak. Even if Russia took all of the Donbas, that wouldn't end the war. 2/

So Russia then tried to occupy more of Ukraine but without a sustainable force to rotate (Russia committed 80% + of its BTGs which took heavy casualties). Russia needed to be able to defend an enormous front line and control the areas it was occupying. Not an easy task. 3/

But the choice to use a huge amount of artillery ammunition and to throw minimally trained volunteers into the fight in the spring was a very short-term view. It was never clear how Russia could achieve conflict termination, especially since Ukraine had a morale advantage. 4/





Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Russian military


Will be treated humanely if their hands are clean


New photos from the Kremlin as President Putin receives his daily brief on the war.

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:59 pm to
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.This war is over 8 years old and this invasion is over 6 months old. It just shows that Putin and Russia's leaders are incompetent military commanders.

And you are General Patton I guess?




Man boomer humor is so cringe.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 2:59 pm to
A good question was raised by this post...Where is the new 3rd Army Corps Russia is throwing into the fight?

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1568595903706980353
quote:

COMBAT DEBUT: Paul Jawin
@PaulJawin
reports that this BMP-2 (and a BTR-80) abandoned and captured during the Kharkiv offensive, may have belonged to the Russian 3rd Army Corps-- a unit that was hoped to ‘turn the tide’ against Ukraine’s offensive.

This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Errerrerrwere


Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:05 pm to
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I am curious what are your military bona fides?



Bone spurs n anal worts
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:09 pm to
This is hilarious: Chinese Social Media turns against Russia:




Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

BMP-2 (and a BTR-80) abandoned and captured during the Kharkiv offensive, may have belonged to the Russian 3rd Army Corps-- a unit that was hoped to ‘turn the tide’ against Ukraine’s offensive.



I mean at some point you are combat ineffective with the amount of equipment lost. I guess they can keep feeding personnel to the beast but at some point you are just bad light infantry.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:20 pm to
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This is hilarious: Chinese Social Media turns against Russia:


I imagine for China it is a lot of elbowing for that #2 spot. AP military power rankings come out on Monday at noon so they need to campaign to the voters.

Seriously though I think that may be at the root coupled with a healthy dose of schadenfreude.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:22 pm to
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568692488931532801
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The Collapse ??:
Conventional warfare is rare in the modern era, even rarer is when a portion of one army effectively collapses. That is currently the situation facing Russian forces between Kupyansk & Lyman. The situation is highly fluid & only those UAF personnel at the
1/

fore of this advance will know for certain what the extent of the advance is. As it stands, despite some increased Russian resistance in areas not impacted by the immediate breakthrough, the Russian forces have not reestablished a coherent defensive line.
2/

This doesn't mean the Russian army will melt away in its entirety. It's still a large, dangerous opponent whose capacity for defensive action demands respect even now. It does means that OpComEast has the initiative & Russia is suffering a defeat with strategic implications.
3/

The current operation has the potential to result in the kind of foot race witnessed by the Allies in 1944 when the Wehrmacht withdrew from France. Halt lines may be determined by UAF logistics & strategic considerations, rather than effective Russian resistance.
4/

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:23 pm to
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I guess they can keep feeding personnel to the beast but at some point you are just bad light infantry.


Honestly, that may make them better. If they refuse to dismount their tin cans they are less effective than Lt infantry on its worst day.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37519 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 3:24 pm to
If this war and the downstream complications turn Russia into a vassal China?

Does China at some point make a move for what used to be Eastern Mongolia?
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