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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by RickAstley
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Stidham8 and Lima Whiskey have been awfully quiet lately.


Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:46 pm to
Another map of the advance

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1567963089819271170
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???????#Kharkiv Offensive Sep 8 22:00:
- UA liberated Balakliia, Broschivka, Ivanivka
- Kalynivka, Taranushyne very likely under Ukrainian control as well
- UA forces reached the outskirts of Shevchenkove and are reportedly advancing towards Kupyansk



We really need some of the Russian supporters to come to tell us how we're misinterpreting all of this. The checks from the Kremlin must have stopped flowing.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:47 pm to
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quote:Stidham8 and Lima Whiskey have been awfully quiet lately.


Don’t give up on Stidham. He’s surfing the net right now looking for the right map.
You know one that shows a portion of a front where Russia made a gain this month.
LW is s as different bird. He quotes sources without providing links. I wonder why he gave up.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 3:52 pm to
Word is that LW got the banhammer, but I can't confirm.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:09 pm to
There is a Russian MilBlogger named Rybar who is very popular on Telegram, he has over 700K followers.

I have followed him and he is not hesitant to criticize the Russian Army.

I think this link will work, but i'm not quite sure
https://t.me/rybar/38448

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The situation in the Izyum direction
by the end of September 8, 2022

??By the evening of the third day of the Ukrainian offensive in the Kharkiv region, Russian units left Balakleya. Soldiers of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the National Guard of the organized left the city through a corridor on the eastern outskirts.

??After the capture of Volkhov Yar, Ukrainian forces advanced towards Shevchenkove, where part of the AFU group blocked the settlement, while other units continued to move towards Kupyansk.

??Later, the Ukrainian forces split up: part of the units went to the Kupyansk-Shevchenkove highway near the village of Grushevka, occupying the settlement and starting preparations for a further assault on Kupyansk.

??Another part of the enemy grouping made a breakthrough to the east, starting fights near the village of Senkovo ??on the banks of the Oskol River. There is a bridge in the village, the capture of which will cut off the supply of Izyum from Kupyansk.

This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:19 pm to
This offensive is moving fast.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1567982199596630019
quote:

Ukrainian forces are on the outskirts of Kupyansk according to many sources.

In the morning there will be good news maybe????

Godspeed to the Ukrainian warriors


And an updated map

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1567979777801465860
quote:

???This is Borivske, #Kharkiv Oblast. Ukrainians are advancing at fast pace, likely closing on western outskirts of Kupyansk.
49.64322221430711, 37.33336361887403

Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:20 pm to
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??Another part of the enemy grouping made a breakthrough to the east, starting fights near the village of Senkovo ??on the banks of the Oskol River. There is a bridge in the village, the capture of which will cut off the supply of Izyum from Kupyansk.


It looks like that bridge is within HIMARS range and I'd be surprised if it isn't already down (or soon will be).
Posted by MikeyFL
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:25 pm to
Wow - that's a lot of ground in a short timespan.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:26 pm to
Ukraine is saying it has recaptured 1000sq Km since the 1st of September.

So how does Russia respond to these dual offensives? Do they have the combat power on the battlefield to stop the Ukrainians?

Supposedly Putin ordered his military to capture the rest of the Donbas by Sept 15th...that's looking pretty unlikely (it was always unlikely, but now it's going to be impossible.)

Are we witnessing the turning of the tide of the war, has Russia reached the highpoint and its all going backwards for them from here?

I think the next week will be very telling on what direction the war goes from here.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Brief thoughts on UA Kharkiv offensive. It appears ambitious, intended to envelop Izyum and try to trap Russian forces there. Likely seeking to interdict ground lines of communication at Kupyansk. The Oskil river east of Izyum makes the pocket vulnerable for RU forces.

UA offensive looks to have made substantial gains, placing RU forces in a precarious position. From what one can tell, and these are early impressions, the advance made good use of armor in conjunction with infantry.

Russian forces appear to have been spread thinly, and mil leadership unprepared despite earlier evidence of UA buildup. I think it’s fair to assess that RU was caught by surprise with little in the way of reserves locally available.

Russia’s manpower issues, dependence on lower quality or mobilized LDNR forces, inability to conduct rotation, and struggles with retaining personnel are all issues at play here. In addition, Russian mil also deployed most of its better troops to Kherson and Zapo in August.

Despite the success of UA breakout by Kharkiv, I don’t see Kherson as a diversion. These appear to be interrelated offensives. Kherson likely intended as a more deliberate, sequenced advance. Kharkiv to take advantage of favorable conditions & attain a rapid breakthrough.


Michael Kofman thread
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:28 pm to
Kofman is a top-quality poster.

ETA: Any ammo and artillery tubes the Russians get from North Korea will not arrive in time to stop this offensive.

If Kapyunsk falls, look for Ukraine to push to retake Severdonstsk.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 4:33 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:34 pm to
Yep, it looks like the "let's make this a frozen conflict and quickly annex" idea isn't going to plan.

Everybody needs a good Putin Downfall parody (though this one is a few days old now and doesn't include most of this big advance).

This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 4:34 pm
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Are we witnessing the turning of the tide of the war, has Russia reached the highpoint and its all going backwards for them from here?


I think what this does show is Russia’s days of taking large chunks of Ukraine are over, at least for now… they’re clearly overextended across a broad front they can’t adequately defend against coordinated attack… I’m sure Russia will counter at some point, but extending beyond their lines if 2-weeks ago?… don’t think so.

But does this signal the beginning of something bigger?… I doubt it but we’ll see.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:34 pm to
But.But. I have been told that the Ukrainians want to be Russians.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:44 pm to
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They need to follow up with reserves and armor though to not get encircled in that bulge. That is unless the Russians are truly spread that thin in men and artillery.


I mentioned the dangers of getting pinched in a salient but now I think it is unlikely to just be a battalion commander that went wild due to low resistance but instead solid western intelligence that predicted the Russian's inability to properly counter the Ukranian's counter.

I am extremely cautious but it is beginning to look like this could be significant.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:47 pm to


It’s every god damn week. I swear to God I better not see Zelensky at the Queen’s funeral.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:49 pm to
At first I thought their website was hacked, but multiple sources are running the same story.


Local St. Petersburg Deputies Urge Putin be Removed

The Council of the Smolninskoye municipal formation in St. Petersburg has adopted a desicion to call on deputies of the State Duma, Russia’s highest legislative body, to bring treason charges against President Putin in order to dismiss him from office.

This was announced by the Smolninskoe Ministry of Defense deputy, Dmitry Palyuga.

“The decision was supported by the majority of deputies present,” Palyuga said, without stating precisely how many deputies approved the decision.

He also posted the texts of the decision and the appeal, which are planned to be sent to the deputies of the State Duma.

It says that “young able-bodied” Russian citizens are dying during the war, the Russian economy is suffering, NATO is expanding to the east, and Ukraine is receiving new weapons (although Putin called the “demilitarization” of the country one of the goals of the invasion).

“We believe President Putin’s decision to launch it (“the special military operation”) harms the security of Russia and its citizens. Given that, we ask you, as a deputy of the State Duma, to come up with a proposal to bring charges of treason against the President of the Russian Federation to remove him from office,” the appeal states.

However, Palyuga did not specify how many deputies would receive the text of the appeal.

Kyiv Post
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:51 pm to
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I mentioned the dangers of getting pinched in a salient but now I think it is unlikely to just be a battalion commander that went wild due to low resistance but instead solid western intelligence that predicted the Russian's inability to properly counter the Ukranian's counter.

I am extremely cautious but it is beginning to look like this could be significant.


If the Ukrainians capture the Kupyansk logistics hub, then the entire Russian army on the western flank of the Donbass is in danger.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:54 pm to
looks like alot of things have been in the motion for a while to lead up to this.


1) hearign for a while about southern offensive coming. lots of line of comm/supply line interdiction in the area

2) russia moving forces from north to south

3) finally offensive in south, Russia move more forces from north to south

4) delayed start in north, from south offensive. with south offensive a wide front offensive, vs north a focused offensive.

it appears ukraine is bypassing cities and pushing deep behind the lines. russian troops will need to make a decision to hold, and get encircled, come out of their defenses and try to counter attack/pincer attack, or fall back and retreat.

i think the windows on counterattacking have passed, so now is get encircled and hope for a counter attack and breakthrough or retreat.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 4:58 pm to
igor Girkin one of the best out there

Thanka for posting

Vlad is so fricked
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