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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:06 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:06 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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But these are the same folks that previously gave us all the laughable evidence of Uko-Nazi cells. “When the FSB discover the safe house of those who blew up Dugina it will likely contain explosives, a 1975 map of Moscow, the Kobzar, a framed Zelinski portrait, a Saint Javelin patch, six copies of the video game "the Sims", a green wig, a NATO laptop, a signed copy of Mein Kampf, Dmytro Yarosh’s business cards and an ‘Economists for Ukraine’ T-shirt. All guarded by a fearsome shiba inu.” We laugh but you know it’s coming…
This is good. For those who missed it before:
quote:
Russia appears to confuse ‘The Sims’ for SIM cards in possible staged assassination attempt
Russian security services on Monday have been accused of staging a Ukrainian assassination attempt by releasing photos of confiscated copies of “The Sims” video games that some speculate were mistaken by Kremlin officers for SIM cards.
The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation released the bizarre photos Monday and announced that police had arrested six neo-Nazis plotting to kill Russian TV Host Vladimir Solovyov in Moscow.
The Russian federal police (FSB) claimed to recover “an improvised explosive device, eight improvised incendiary devices of the Molotov cocktail type, six PM pistols, a sawn-off hunting rifle, an RGD-5 grenade, more than a thousand cartridges of various calibers, drugs, [and] fake Ukrainian passports” from the would-be assassins, as well as “nationalist literature and paraphernalia.”
The plot to kill him with a car bomb, according to the FSB, was supposedly cooked up in coordination with the Ukrainian security services.
NY Post
ETA: car bombs are out of my wheelhouse, but it looked as those the explosion happened on the road. Does make your bomb wired to the ignition idea less likely?
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:32 pm to nitwit
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he Russian claims about this incident are not credible, as everyone knows from their long history of blaming their enemies for everything.
They couldn’t prevent this event from happening, but within 24 hours knew every minute detail about who/what/when/where etc. awfully convenient.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:45 pm to TigerDoc
quote:I wrote that it was not wired to the ignition. The bomb did detonate while the vehicle was moving down a road and the most likely method of detonation (from what I read) was through a 'cellular signal'. So normal investigation would start with the local cellular mast transcript records. The point being, when a modern passenger vehicle is being driven, it creates a great deal of electronic interference. Enough interference to disrupt the remote detonating signal. To avoid this and make the weapon highly reliable, a certain degree of expertise and experience must be employed. There are other factors that could cause detonation failure, this is just the primary one.
ETA: car bombs are out of my wheelhouse, but it looked as those the explosion happened on the road. Does make your bomb wired to the ignition idea less likely?
By the way, if this theory is correct, the parties responsible may be good but they still made a massive mistake. Par for the course for this group. Think about it - they missed one of the two persons with the coup information and gave him a huge reason to spill all to Putin. Right now information is the deadliest thing in Russia.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:40 pm to bgtiger
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The republican vs democrat fight
Isn’t it wonderful that we live in a country where major parties can fight it out? A lot of our politicians act like children but I much prefer their fighting to the dismal political landscape of Russia and its dictator.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:41 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
"When I retire I'm going to jump out of a building from the 6th floor!"
-Famous Russian Journalist.
-Famous Russian Journalist.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:42 pm to Coeur du Tigre
2nd time today where I’ve been grateful for posters in this thread. Tiger Heart I appreciate your input, it’s helping shape my understanding of some aspects of this war. I’ll ask some folks about these theories.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:44 pm to Kentucker
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They’re also in America, you twit.
How much money has the Biden administration given them?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:56 pm to LSUCanFAN
This is today's Malcontent News roudup.
Breaking News
Russian cruise missiles struck Zatoka for the twelfth time since February 24. Russian cruise missiles hit the disabled Zatoka Bridge. There are no reports of injuries.
Northeast Donetsk
Russian forces were attempted an advance on Vesele [Donetsk] from Spirne while Siversk and the surrounding settlements were shelled, as was Ivano-Daryivka.
An ammunition depot in Alchevsk was destroyed in a rocket attack launched by HIMARS.
Bakhmut
PMC Wagner Group and elements of the 2nd Army Corps of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) attempted to advance into Soledar and Bakhmutske without success.
Private Military Company (PMC) Wagner Group, supported by the LNR separatists, remains on the outskirts of Bakhmut. The 58th Mechanized Brigade of Ukraine shot down a Russian Su-25 ground attack aircraft.
Russian forces continued their attacks on Zaitseve, 10 kilometers southeast of Bakhmut, striking from two directions.
In the Svitlodarsk bulge, Russian forces attacked Kodema from three directions but failed to dislodge Ukrainian defenders.
Southwest Donetsk – Zaporizhia
North of Donetsk, an attempt to advance on Niu York ended in failure. DNR separatists fought positional battles near Krasnohorivka but could not improve their tactical situation.
West of Donetsk, elements of the 1st Army Corps of the DNR attempted to advance on Optyne and Pisky using reconnaissance in force without success.
The village of Nevelske was attacked from two directions, but a lack of tanks made moving across the open fields near impossible for light infantry forces.
DNR separatists tried to improve their positions in eastern Marinka using reconnaissance in force. They also attempted to flank Markina from Luhanske without success.
In Donetsk, rockets fired from HIMARS made a precision strike on a large ammunition depot in the eastern part of the city.
On the Donetsk-Zaporizhia administrative border, Russian forces tried to advance on the Velyka Novosilka suburb of Neskuchne and were unsuccessful.
Kharkiv
North of Izyum, Russian forces launched offensives on Dementiivka and Pytomnyk, but they were unsuccessful.
Izyum
South of Izyum, Russian forces maintained tradition with attempted advances on Dmytrivka and Bohorodychne using reconnaissance in force. They weren’t successful. Russian units attacked Ukrainian positions in Dibrovne, Dolyna, and Karnaukhivka. They also tried to advance in the direction of Nova Dmytrivka from Brazhkivka. They were not able to gain new territory.
Kherson
Rockets fired from HIMARS hit the Antonivsky Bridge in Kherson, producing a major fire and a large explosion. Rockets also hit the bridge and Russian bases in Nova Kakhovka.
Russian airborne troops (VDV) continued their attempts to advance on Tavrijs’ke from Oleksandrivka. They could not improve their positions. Russian forces attempted to capture all of Blahodatne [Mykolaiv] but remained unsuccessful.
Ukrainian forces launched offensives on Novohrednjeve and Sukhyi Stavok, intending to expand the Inhulets River bridgehead. Fighting was described as intense. However, Ukrainian troops did not capture either settlement.
Dnipropetrovsk
The situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is unchanged. None of the parties involved in negotiations to allow inspectors into the power plant have set a date for when the International Atomic Energy Agency will arrive.
Valentyn Reznichenko, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported that Nikopol was hit by Grad rockets fired from the Zaporizhzhia NPP region.
Sumy and Chernihiv
Dmytro Zhyvytskyi, Sumy Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported that the settlements of Bilopillia, Khotin, and Velykopysarivska were shelled from across the international border with Russia. There were no injuries, and none of the strikes caused major damage.
In Chernihiv, the settlements of Muravyi and Zaliznyi Mist were shelled. There were no reports of damage or injuries.
Odesa, Crimea, and the Black Sea
North of Odesa, Russia fired five Kalibr cruise missiles into the Odesa Oblast. Two were shot down, with three landing in the area of Maiors’ke. Russia also fired two cruise missiles at the Zatoka Bridge south of Odesa. The bridge has been disabled since early May, and this was the sixth strike on the structure since the start of the war.
Russian air defenses fired at unidentified objects across the Crimea Peninsula, but there were no confirmed drone or missile strikes. Russian sources did not provide any proof to support claims of rockets, missiles, and drones being shot down.
Beyond Ukraine
Russia’s National Republican Army claimed responsibility for the assassination of Daryna Dugina on August 21. The group claims that they planted an improvised explosive device (IED) under the driver’s seat of her father’s SUV.
Daily Assessment
1. The British Ministry of Intelligence and the ISW assessed that Russian forces had exhausted their combat strength, validating our conclusion from August 19.
2. Russian officials have likely kicked out Ukrainian employees of Energoatom from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to eliminate evidence of its use as a military base in preparation for the agreed-to International Atomic Energy Agency inspection.
3. There is a very high chance of multiple and significant punitive strikes against Ukrainian civilians and civilian infrastructure the week of August 22 due to attacks on Belgorod, Russian-occupied Crimea, the assassination of Darya Dugina, and Ukrainian Independence Day celebrations on August 24.
Breaking News
Russian cruise missiles struck Zatoka for the twelfth time since February 24. Russian cruise missiles hit the disabled Zatoka Bridge. There are no reports of injuries.
Northeast Donetsk
Russian forces were attempted an advance on Vesele [Donetsk] from Spirne while Siversk and the surrounding settlements were shelled, as was Ivano-Daryivka.
An ammunition depot in Alchevsk was destroyed in a rocket attack launched by HIMARS.
Bakhmut
PMC Wagner Group and elements of the 2nd Army Corps of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) attempted to advance into Soledar and Bakhmutske without success.
Private Military Company (PMC) Wagner Group, supported by the LNR separatists, remains on the outskirts of Bakhmut. The 58th Mechanized Brigade of Ukraine shot down a Russian Su-25 ground attack aircraft.
Russian forces continued their attacks on Zaitseve, 10 kilometers southeast of Bakhmut, striking from two directions.
In the Svitlodarsk bulge, Russian forces attacked Kodema from three directions but failed to dislodge Ukrainian defenders.
Southwest Donetsk – Zaporizhia
North of Donetsk, an attempt to advance on Niu York ended in failure. DNR separatists fought positional battles near Krasnohorivka but could not improve their tactical situation.
West of Donetsk, elements of the 1st Army Corps of the DNR attempted to advance on Optyne and Pisky using reconnaissance in force without success.
The village of Nevelske was attacked from two directions, but a lack of tanks made moving across the open fields near impossible for light infantry forces.
DNR separatists tried to improve their positions in eastern Marinka using reconnaissance in force. They also attempted to flank Markina from Luhanske without success.
In Donetsk, rockets fired from HIMARS made a precision strike on a large ammunition depot in the eastern part of the city.
On the Donetsk-Zaporizhia administrative border, Russian forces tried to advance on the Velyka Novosilka suburb of Neskuchne and were unsuccessful.
Kharkiv
North of Izyum, Russian forces launched offensives on Dementiivka and Pytomnyk, but they were unsuccessful.
Izyum
South of Izyum, Russian forces maintained tradition with attempted advances on Dmytrivka and Bohorodychne using reconnaissance in force. They weren’t successful. Russian units attacked Ukrainian positions in Dibrovne, Dolyna, and Karnaukhivka. They also tried to advance in the direction of Nova Dmytrivka from Brazhkivka. They were not able to gain new territory.
Kherson
Rockets fired from HIMARS hit the Antonivsky Bridge in Kherson, producing a major fire and a large explosion. Rockets also hit the bridge and Russian bases in Nova Kakhovka.
Russian airborne troops (VDV) continued their attempts to advance on Tavrijs’ke from Oleksandrivka. They could not improve their positions. Russian forces attempted to capture all of Blahodatne [Mykolaiv] but remained unsuccessful.
Ukrainian forces launched offensives on Novohrednjeve and Sukhyi Stavok, intending to expand the Inhulets River bridgehead. Fighting was described as intense. However, Ukrainian troops did not capture either settlement.
Dnipropetrovsk
The situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is unchanged. None of the parties involved in negotiations to allow inspectors into the power plant have set a date for when the International Atomic Energy Agency will arrive.
Valentyn Reznichenko, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported that Nikopol was hit by Grad rockets fired from the Zaporizhzhia NPP region.
Sumy and Chernihiv
Dmytro Zhyvytskyi, Sumy Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported that the settlements of Bilopillia, Khotin, and Velykopysarivska were shelled from across the international border with Russia. There were no injuries, and none of the strikes caused major damage.
In Chernihiv, the settlements of Muravyi and Zaliznyi Mist were shelled. There were no reports of damage or injuries.
Odesa, Crimea, and the Black Sea
North of Odesa, Russia fired five Kalibr cruise missiles into the Odesa Oblast. Two were shot down, with three landing in the area of Maiors’ke. Russia also fired two cruise missiles at the Zatoka Bridge south of Odesa. The bridge has been disabled since early May, and this was the sixth strike on the structure since the start of the war.
Russian air defenses fired at unidentified objects across the Crimea Peninsula, but there were no confirmed drone or missile strikes. Russian sources did not provide any proof to support claims of rockets, missiles, and drones being shot down.
Beyond Ukraine
Russia’s National Republican Army claimed responsibility for the assassination of Daryna Dugina on August 21. The group claims that they planted an improvised explosive device (IED) under the driver’s seat of her father’s SUV.
Daily Assessment
1. The British Ministry of Intelligence and the ISW assessed that Russian forces had exhausted their combat strength, validating our conclusion from August 19.
2. Russian officials have likely kicked out Ukrainian employees of Energoatom from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to eliminate evidence of its use as a military base in preparation for the agreed-to International Atomic Energy Agency inspection.
3. There is a very high chance of multiple and significant punitive strikes against Ukrainian civilians and civilian infrastructure the week of August 22 due to attacks on Belgorod, Russian-occupied Crimea, the assassination of Darya Dugina, and Ukrainian Independence Day celebrations on August 24.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:57 pm to LSUCanFAN
It’s all just conjecture at this stage. Every person connected to the Putin regime is under huge pressure right now, and that kind of stress causes mistakes. However, your comment about Armagh may be the most prescient. I don’t think anyone will be surprised if this car bombing is the first in a long string of assassinations throughout Moscow and St. Petersburg. Some certainly by the Ukrainians, but most by different Russian factions. And as always, everyone has to keep their eyes on Sechin. He’s the one that won’t make a mistake.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 5:42 pm to Coeur du Tigre
They have been under pressure for MONTHS financially.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 5:54 pm to CitizenK
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They have been under pressure for MONTHS financially.
Not the elite, their lives have largely been unchanged.
Coeur is right, the landscape in Moscow has changed. Somebody either at the cool kids table or somebody that once sat there is pissed off and has the capability to hit the inner circle.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:28 pm to Lakeboy7
I’m sure Pootin’ is squirming. I wonder if he has a food taster?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:52 pm to Kentucker
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@steveholland1
11m
WASHINGTON, Aug 22 (Reuters) - The United States has intelligence that Russia is planning to launch fresh attacks against Ukraine's civilian infrastructure and government facilities soon, a U.S. official said on Monday.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:54 pm to Decatur
What exactly is civilian infrastructure?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:01 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Power plants, water resources, traffic lights.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What exactly is civilian infrastructure?
Nuclear power plant
Hydroelectric dams. The roads that run next to them are fair game because they serve a military purpose but the dams themselves are civilian.
Civilian airport terminals. Not the runways or tarmacs but the terminals themselves.
Apartment buildings
Schools
Hospitals
Basically everything that Russia has bombed or shelled in the last 6 months except for the front lines.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:10 pm to WeeWee
I would classify the first two as legitimate targets.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I would classify the first two as legitimate targets.
I guess you could make that argument since the electricity could be going to military purposes. However, it is not the 1940s anymore. Weapons technology has advanced to where both can be preventing from disabled without risking damage to the structures and causes mass suffering on the civilian population. Missiles and artillery are both accurate enough that the substations and transmission lines from the plants can be destroyed without risking a nuclear meltdown or a massive flood and the loss of water supplies for civilians.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:23 pm to WeeWee
Has Russian military technology advanced that much?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:34 pm to Lakeboy7
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Not the elite, their lives have largely been unchanged.
Correct, they moved their money out of Russia
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