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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:36 pm to
At least there is $300 billion of Russia's assets frozen in the USA which is liable to be sued by Ukrainian government and individuals.

Putain will never see that money ever again
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:56 pm to
Isw update

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Russian occupation officials in Zaporizhia Oblast have obliquely declared the region’s independence from Ukraine by falsely identifying Ukrainian citizens entering the occupied region as temporary asylum seekers.


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Russian occupation authorities are thus falsely classifying all Ukrainians entering occupied territories in Zaporizhia Oblast as refugees escaping persecution in Ukraine.


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Key Takeaways

Russian-backed occupation authorities in Zaporizhia Oblast have obliquely declared the independence of the occupied areas of the oblast by falsely identifying Ukrainian citizens entering from unoccupied Ukraine as temporary asylum seekers.

Russian forces conducted localized spoiling attacks southwest and southeast of Izyum.

Russian forces continued ground attacks southeast of Siversk and northeast and south of Bakhmut.

Russian forces continued attempts to advance from the northern and western outskirts of Donetsk City and conducted limited ground attacks southwest of Donetsk City.

Russian forces made marginal gains along the Mykolaiv-Kherson line.

Ukrainian intelligence stated that the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) will start “general mobilization” processes on September 1.

Prymorsky Krai announced the formation of a new repair and service volunteer battalion.

Ukrainian partisans continued to conduct attacks against Russian forces in occupied Melitopol.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:58 pm to
I have it on good authority that there is a bunch of folks that are all in on a revenge terror campaign. It will be very targeted with as few civilians collateralized as possible. The apartment style stuff is all Putin-this will be inner circle stuff. Sechin is one side of this but Ukrainian nationals are itching to be green lit. BTW my Estonian friend says the mother daughter assassin stuff is complete horseshite. The woman brought her own child, she used her own personal vehicle, with her licence plates registered to her own address. This woman is supposed to be a highly trained assassin with advanced technical knowledge of remote triggered explosives? Firfuxsake FSB do better.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 7:32 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30652 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:36 am to
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Has Russian military technology advanced that much?


Both of those are electrical infrastructure so you can attack the electrical infrastructure outside the dam or NPP on the extra high voltage infrastructure side vs the dam and nuclear reactor. The transmission side is a softer target and if you get close to the source it can be a single target.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30652 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:50 am to
Interesting 12min YT video on the "Dutch Disease" that Russia's economy has.

YT

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What Is Dutch Disease?
Dutch disease is an economic term for the negative consequences that can arise from a spike in the value of a nation’s currency. It is primarily associated with the new discovery or exploitation of a valuable natural resource and the unexpected repercussions that such a discovery can have on the overall economy of a nation.


Basically, the Russian O&G sector has pulled jobs from the manufacturing sector as has the service sector in order to serve people with O&G money so the manufacturing sector has collapsed. This makes the entire economy extremely dependant on O&G and vulnerable to sanctions.
Posted by Narbona
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:59 am to
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Holy shite the implication is that they monitored this assassination team, we’re aware of their movements and did nothing whatsoever to prevent the bombing? GTFO lol ridiculous… wait then let them escape???


Sounds a lot like our intelligence agencies with 9/11 and nearly every Islamic shooting in the US since.

It helped unite Americans on killing half a million of those dirty goat humpers and this will probably unite Russians on killing those evil Nazi Ukrainians.

Pretty standard stuff in the world of intelligence and propaganda.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20457 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:14 am to
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Putain will never see that money ever again


So the Ukes can "sue" to get that money? Interesting.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
2056 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:27 am to
So let’s say that Putin “wins”

Total occupation of Ukraine and Zelensky’s government falls in Kyiv.

What happens to all the Ukrainian people?

This is not 1600. I don’t think a people who have been independent for 31 years are just going to start following Russian law and paying Russian taxes.

Do they all immigrate? Surely some are sympathetic and become Russian?

School me on this. Por Favor.



<- Despite what I read on the Poli Board, I hope the Ukraine people are successful and Putin is exposed as the POS I think we all know he is.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5728 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:54 am to
FSB plans terrorist attacks with massive civilian casualties in Russia – National Security Council Secretary
— Tuesday, 23 August 2022, 11:29

Oleksiy Danilov, the Secretary of RNBO [National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine] said that support for the war is falling in Russia and the FSB [Federal Security Service] has planned a series of terrorist attacks in that country that are supposed to end up in massive civilian casualties.

Source: Danilov on Twitter

Quote: "Russia's support of the war is falling. The Kremlin needs public mobilisation.

The FSB is expected to organize a series of terrorist acts in Russian cities with mass civilian casualties.

Dugina is the first in this series. Unlike Russia, Ukraine is not at war with the civilian population."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:40 am to
The problem is no one is keen on going to Ukraine to get killed, the mobilization would take way too long to come up with trained men and women and where is the motivation? Whereas Ukrainians are highly motivated, they know Russia is teetering on the edge. The intercepts I’ve heard keep sending word back home; this is a bloody mess, this is unwinnable as long as America and Europe continue to support Ukraine and morale is complete shite. Oh and payroll and widows pensions aren’t being paid plus Wagner Group makes three times what a regular RU soldier makes. Wagner Group is also forcefully voicing anger at the slow rate of pay on telegram et al…
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5728 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:55 am to
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The intercepts I’ve heard keep sending word back home; this is a bloody mess,


True, but the Russian media are just recently somewhat mentioning it and are using it to promote mobilization. You may have seen this example, but if not it's worth a watch.

Twitter - Russian TV with subtitles
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17727 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:16 am to
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This is not 1600. I don’t think a people who have been independent for 31 years are just going to start following Russian law and paying Russian taxes.



Imagine expecting Americans to accept rejoining England when the War of 1812 kicked off...

That's essentially what some pro-russian users seem to argue/expect from Ukraine. There isn't a snowball's chance in hell any Western aligned nation would accept being forcefully subjegated.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:23 am to
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Twitter - Russian TV with subtitles


The comments are hilarious. They’re having a lot of fun with those idiots.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:59 am to
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So the Ukes can "sue" to get that money? Interesting.



No need, we will give it to them to rebuild.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30652 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:06 am to
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Twitter - Russian TV with subtitles


That is the one where they are arguing prisoners should be let out of the gulags to fight and work in the Russian war industry.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41284 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:14 am to
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There isn't a snowball's chance in hell any Western aligned nation would accept being forcefully subjegated.


Hell, if China landed on American beaches tomorrow, the Democratic Party would be right there waving the ChiComs on. Look how vigorously they fought being subjugated during the Chinese Flu farce.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17727 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:42 am to
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Hell, if China landed on American beaches tomorrow, the Democratic Party would be right there waving the ChiComs on. Look how vigorously they fought being subjugated during the Chinese Flu farce.


Frick that Fox News/ONN BS. This country has proven time and again that though there may be a lot of infighting... We will unite and kick the shite out of any foreign power that threatens us
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:07 am to
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Hell, if China landed on American beaches tomorrow, the Democratic Party would be right there waving the ChiComs on. Look how vigorously they fought being subjugated during the Chinese Flu farce.


Your brain is broken.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:14 am to
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Hell, if China landed on American beaches tomorrow, the Democratic Party would be right there waving the ChiComs on. Look how vigorously they fought being subjugated during the Chinese Flu farce.

What a strange distorted bubble you live in
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20457 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:38 am to
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Hell, if China landed on American beaches tomorrow, the Democratic Party would be right there waving the ChiComs on. Look how vigorously they fought being subjugated during the Chinese Flu farce.


I could see that happening.
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