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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:54 am to
Neo Nazi Dugin is calling for retribution on Ukraine. Putin's favorite neo Nazi who wants Russia to conquer all of Europe and Asia. Of course, he wants to kill all of the joos.
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Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:56 am to
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You better hope our CIA didn’t do that. I don’t think they’d do anything that reckless and stupid, but the Feds are largely comprised of idiots.



CIA didn't do it. This was either an internal power play in Russia or a Ukrainian SPECOP meant to stir up internal dissention in RU
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:56 am to
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wants Russia to conquer all of Europe and Asia

Seems unlikely.
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:57 am to
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RU have been refusing deserting/surrendering at a rate of approximately 50-150 per day.


The original term of service for the reservist was 180 days, there are press gangs at border crossing now because so many are just walking home now that their term is up.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:03 am to
Have you seen that documentary about the guy that ran opposed to Putin and they murdered him when he came back to Russia. Has there been any protests from those people or rumblings. Just kinda thought those people might be the ones to cause internal problems within Russia FBO Ukraine. Or do they also fall on the side of Ukraine is evil occupying Russian lands
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90327 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:18 am to
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No, car bombings are not popular “here in America.” Not at all.

Where do you live?


Car bombing maybe the wrong word, but leftists do enjoy throwing a molotov cocktail at vehicles or using speeding vehicles to commit mass homicides.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:22 am to
Navalny's supporters are against the Russian invasion of Ukraine. They're generally broadly neoliberal so I wouldn't expect them to be perpetrating terror attacks. Still, the car bombing did happen on the anniversary of Navalny's poisoning. Even if that's not coincidental, that doesn't mean it's his people. There are "leaderless resistance" concepts that might be coming into play.
Posted by junior
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:22 am to
Any evidence Russian forest fires are were started by Ukrainians? Seems like 1-2 individuals could cause some damage w minimal blowback.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:24 am to
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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:24 am to
Russia claims Dugina was killed by Ukrainian who then fled to Estonia
Monday, 22 August 2022, 14:20

The FSB claims that the assassination of Dariya Dugina was orchestrated by the Ukrainian special services.

Source: TASS

Details: The assassin is said to be a Ukrainian woman who fled to Estonia after committing the crime.

FSB quote: "It has been established that the crime was prepared and performed by the Ukrainian special services. The perpetrator is a citizen of Ukraine, Natalia Pavlivna Vovk, born in 1979; she arrived in Russia on 23 July 2022, together with her daughter Sofia Mykhailivna Shaban, born in 2010. In order to organize the murder of D. Dugina and acquire information about her way of life, they rented an apartment in Moscow, in the same house where the victim used to live."

Details: The message says that Vovk drove a Cooper Mini to follow the Russian journalist. The FSB claims that when the Ukrainian entered Russia, her vehicle had a licence plate from the so-called "Donetsk People’s Republic"; in Moscow, she used a Kazakh licence plate, and then a Ukrainian one when leaving.

On the day of murder, Vovk and her daughter allegedly visited the "Traditsiya" festival, where Darya Dugina was present, too.

FSB quote: "After the remote detonation of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado driven by Dugina, Vovk and her daughter left for Estonia via Pskov Oblast on 21 August."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:28 am to
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The assassin is said to be a Ukrainian woman who fled to Estonia after committing the crime.



Sure, they have to paint it this way.

I guess the 12 year old planted the explosive, smaller hands.....
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:33 am to
Why in the frick would the FSB put this statement out?! Holy shite the implication is that they monitored this assassination team, we’re aware of their movements and did nothing whatsoever to prevent the bombing? GTFO lol ridiculous… wait then let them escape???
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:37 am to
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Our CIA doing work and sending a message to Putin with that car bombing.


Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11914 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:37 am to
They want to make sure the Russian public believes it's the Ukrainians (which of course it could be) instead of native Russians resisting Putin. They're going in whole hog on the accusation - the FSB has released video of what they say is Vovk driving into Russia, entering Dugina's building, and leaving via Estonia. Of course, nothing on planting the bomb, though...
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32812 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:41 am to
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I guess the 12 year old planted the explosive, smaller hands....


Any guesses as to the daughter’s code name?

Littlefinger?
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:42 am to
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Why in the frick would the FSB put this statement out?! Holy shite the implication is that they monitored this assassination team, we’re aware of their movements and did nothing whatsoever to prevent the bombing? GTFO lol ridiculous… wait then let them escape???

The statement also suggests that Darya Dugina was the actual target. Why the hell would Ukraine send female assassin and her ten year old daughter into Russia to target this lady? She's no different than any of the Russian propagandist talking heads. As if this lady would be the target that the Ukrainians hit to change the course of the war. It's ludicrous.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:42 am to
Inflames Russian sentiment against Ukraine and provides a pretext for going after the Baltics, which of course was on Putin's agenda all along.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17727 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:42 am to
Yeah definitely a false flag, to get the Russian people to support the war effort, and to expand the war. It’ll prolly get pretty ugly this week.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5728 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:47 am to
Yeah definitely a false flag,

Attacks on russian soil will help sell mobilization.
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