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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
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"C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;"



Interesting to see if it was a missile(s) or up close work. That would be a long missile/rocket shot.

But it sure feels like some of these military targets in Crimea are not well guarded on the ground.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8198 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:16 pm to
The comments suggest that video may be old.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30677 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Could be those long tab types those guys just cant sit still.


The big thing their Spetsnaz would have going for them working in Crimea is their ability to blend with the local populace. It still seems incredible to me that they could infiltrate these sites during wartime. Red Cell did walk onto a nuclear sub in the daytime but it was in peacetime and in California.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30677 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:25 pm to
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The comments suggest that video may be old.


That is the Melitopol hot from a week or so ago. I never saw confirmation of the video I posted earlier today but the weather matched today. I need to go back and look and see if there is any more confirmation.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:30 pm to
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they could infiltrate these sites during wartime


Not believable for us I agree. But you have seen their guys at the front and they stink so what exactly gets left in the rear with the gear? probably not much.

And security functions are NCO driven right, so I fully expect their security to be fricked up.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 3:55 pm to
I read the transcripts on an intercept 3-4 weeks ago where the guy spoke about anyone guarding an ammo dump/ammo train was being punished, had pissed off some high ranking FSB/GRU commander…it points to a complete inability to defend high value assets.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:06 pm to
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I read the transcripts on an intercept 3-4 weeks ago where the guy spoke about anyone guarding an ammo dump/ammo train was being punished, had pissed off some high ranking FSB/GRU commander…it points to a complete inability to defend high value assets.





Well that wont work
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13517 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 4:23 pm to
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hope both Russia and Ukraine lose



Well you're getting your wish. The combined countries are losing hundreds of men, plus countless vehicles and equipment every day. Entire cities are being destroyed. Infrastructure that will take decades to replace. Billions in lost productivity. Etc.

If Russia hadn't started nothing, wouldn't be nothing. But I guess you're happy with the current state of affairs.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13164 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 6:11 pm to
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Mikhail Razvozzhayev, head of the Russian occupation government in Ukraine's Sevastopol, attributed the sounds to the work of air defense.


Russian statements are the comic relief of this horrible situation. Per the latest Perun video even the most adamant supporters of Russia think the lies are not helping anything and wish they would stop. I'd hate to see that happen.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 6:41 pm to
The Russian army has proven one thing above all else during this conflict and that is that they are without question the most undisciplined military on the planet.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8186 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:09 pm to
The statements flowing from the Russians are really starting to take on a North Korean vibe.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13094 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:15 pm to
It’s gonna take a whole of fun out of this war if Russia starts telling the truth.
But, it could send all their adversaries into a confused state of disarray.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8667 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:20 pm to
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There were some chemical weapons that were found, but it was not made public. I have no idea what condition those weapons were in and if they could be used as chemical weapons or why it was kept secret. However, soldiers were hurt when they were attempting to dispose of them. ISIS also used Saddam’s former chemical weapons factories in Mosul. The head of ISIS’s chemical weapons program was a former brigadier general in Saddam’s army


Anyone who spent time at Taji remembers the big field of spent canisters on the other side of the highway from the base. If I remember correctly, those were for 122mm mustard gas shells. God, what a shithole.

Definitely doesn’t justify the invasion in my view but it is false to say there were no chemical weapons. They were, however, severely degraded and rather shitty, much like Assad’s.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13164 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:23 pm to
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The statements flowing from the Russians are really starting to take on a North Korean vibe.


The pro-Russia Politards like to go on about "it's propaganda from both sides" and there is some truth to that. But at least a lot of what Ukraine says is backed up by video and satellite images (and some is nonsense). But Russia is reach absurd levels of stupid lying. What I go by is the maps and visual evidence, and a smidgeon of credibility to Ukraine, and the expectation that Russian claims are laughable.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30677 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:34 pm to
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The statements flowing from the Russians are really starting to take on a North Korean vibe.


The funniest shite I have seen recently was them blatantly cheating in a live stream of the Army Games that are going on now. It was in one of the heats of the tank biathlon. The crew had an issue at one of the firing lines and sat there for over 8 minutes and had to replace their tank because the one they were in...broke. The other teams that had issues just had a high time, the tank part of the games is in Russia, toward the end of the run the judges awarded Russia back 8 minutes of "administrative time" for a "technical delay" and they beat China by 2 minutes. The Russians can even play Army well but it is hard to cheat on the battlefield.

I did learn if you are going into a tank battle you want Venezuala on the other side. They missed 4 targets from a full stopped position with their main guns at about 1,000m, these are targets an Abrams could hit at full trot bouncing like all hell.

The only thing impressive about the Soviet T72B3s they were using is they were FAST. I saw speeds of up to 85kph (~53mph) one blew past a Chinese tank like it was dragging an anchor.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:41 pm to
Isw update

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There were no claimed or assessed Russian territorial gains in Ukraine on August 18, 2022 for the first time since July 6, 2022.


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Russian sources reported explosions across Crimea—possibly caused by Russian air defenses, Ukrainian reconnaissance, or a Ukrainian attack—the night of August 18.


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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) appears to be setting information conditions to blame Ukrainian forces for future false flag operations at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP).


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Key Takeaways

There were no claimed or assessed Russian territorial gains in Ukraine on August 18, 2022 for the first time since July 6, 2022.

Russian sources reported a series of unidentified and unconfirmed explosions across Crimea on the night of August 18.

The Russian Ministry of Defense may be setting information conditions to blame Ukraine for a false flag attack at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Russian forces conducted ground assaults south of Siversk and northeast and south of Bakhmut.

Russian forces continued conducting offensive operations north, west, and southwest of Donetsk City.

Russian forces conducted an unsuccessful ground assault on the Zaporizhia axis.

Ukrainian officials confirmed additional strikes on a Russian military base and warehouse in Kherson Oblast.

The Kremlin is likely leveraging established Cossack organizations to support Russian force generation efforts.

Russian occupation officials continued preparations for the long-term integration of occupied territories of Ukraine into Russia.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109715 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:43 pm to
This is still going on?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:48 pm to
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That has to be over 350kms as the missile flies from any Ukranian held ground no?


There are multiple Ukrainian spetnaz teams operating in Crimea right now. Also the Thunder2 missile has a range of 500 km.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61743 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 7:52 pm to
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This is still going on?



Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30677 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 8:04 pm to
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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) appears to be setting information conditions to blame Ukrainian forces for future false flag operations at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP).


Have you seen the video from inside the Zaporizhzhia NPP where Russia is literally parking military vehicles INSIDE the plant in the generator room?

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