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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:56 pm to
Logistics Collapse

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According to our sources in the army, difficulties have already begun with barrels for self-propelled guns, howitzers and heavy guns.

Barrels need to be changed regularly, or they will fail. When they fail, if lucky, you only get them to banana, as the explosive gasses breakthrough. If not, you get an explosion that injures and kills personnel.

Let’s just say these failures are terrible for morale. Artillerymen know the barrels need changing. They also know what happens and likely why when barrels fail.


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After the successful destruction of 11 Russian ammunition depots by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the troops began to experience an acute shortage of ammunition for artillery, tanks and MLRS.

We have seen this in fewer fire missions. Ukrainian HIMARS continue to pound supply depots, so expect this to grow. It’s more than eleven at this point.

”It will take several weeks to compensate for this shortage. And it still needs to be understood that if the shells are again shove just where, then they will again be launched into the wind, ”says the Russian staff officer.

The problem they have is they don’t have the trucks to drive these from bases inside Russia. Nor do they know how to do that. Russia would need something like the Red Ball Express after the Allies landed at Normandy. They don’t have the trucks at this point.


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”August will be really bad. We will not see new equipment, and there will be nothing and nothing to repair the old one. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine go forward at this moment, then we will have nothing to stop them, ”says another Russian staff officer.


What's really odd about the August date in this statement is that it's the same time period Major General Kyrylo Budanov (Ukraine's head of military intelligence) said the war would reach a turning point back in May

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This is the implication because the tank factory supposedly stopped running due to sanctions; they are still producing some new tanks. It’s just not for the war effort. They are using whatever they still have to fulfill an export order.

Put yourself in the shoes of the general staff for a damn second. You need tanks, but the export market is taking priority in the middle of a war. Incidentally, they are no longer producing Armatas either. This is as dysfunctional as it gets.


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The Russians are trying something similar. We all have seen the jack-in-the-box turrets. Crews don’t survive that. But the vehicles need to be repaired. Like American crews, Russians first need to clean these tanks from human remains, hardly a pleasant job.

If you thought this was a job for military troops, it was in the US military. It’s not for Russia. They are bringing factory workers to do this grizzly job. They are paying people within Ukraine 300,000 rubles per month and on the Russian side 150,000.

Realize the money is really good. They cannot keep technicians
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:57 pm to
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Hahahaha only Russians are incompetent enough to shoot down their own aircraft. Good times.


True, we just let ours fall off the carrier!
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:04 pm to
Damn, they brought down another one (this time a SU-35) with friendly fire.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:17 pm to
On its on twitter, must be true!

Who would have thought that the thing to beat the Russians were the Russians!
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:20 pm to
This has only been happening in the last week. Go back and few pages and read Lima on how Russia hadn't lost planes since April (not quite accurate, but still). It seems like HIMARS are spooking them now, though.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8686 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:22 pm to
Odesa is everything for Ukraine. It’s no secret which is why they aren’t even hiding their intentions of bolstering the south. We should have been training their pilots on the F-16 since the beginning of April when it was clear Ukraine intended to fight this out until the end. Right now they would have 4 months of training under their belts and could possibly be flying sorties by the end of summer if you figure it would take about 6 months to learn how to fly the aircraft and then proper tactics. The 100+ artillery pieces and HIMARS we have sent have no doubt been huge but nothing like a couple squadrons of F-16’s would mean for them. We wouldn’t be pulling from our active inventory either since we are starting to pull some of the older F-16’s from active service.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:22 pm to
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This has only been happening in the last week. It seems like HIMARS are spooking them.


That is the exact comment I saw in that twitter thread you linked that showed something burning in the sky. Zero links to anything confirming anything.

Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:23 pm to
Not exactly surprised. It’s gotta be spooky when a missile could come down from high altitude at any given moment without a warning. Unlike cruise missiles, don’t HIMARS rockets travel in a tall arc?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:29 pm to
The Russian air defense systems aren't optimized yet to distinguish these guided rockets from the dumb rockets and the Ukrainians are firing grads or other non-precision rockets to make it tough to see what's guided and what isn't. Not sure why they're firing on their own planes. Jay's right that it should be confirmed, but the Su-34 from yesterday has been.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:32 pm to
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but the Su-34 has been.


The only thing I found was that a jet actually went down. Nothing about anti air going off just stuff on twitter and a photo of wreckage. Fog of war and all.

I am just a little hesitant on these things.

It certainly happens as with all our conflicts, we have mistakenly done the same at times but yea with this new age twitter live updates, some of these seem too good to be true some times.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:34 pm to
This shite is still ongoing? I thought Ukraine was using all of our money and weapons systems to kick Putin out? What happened?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4684 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:35 pm to
Great link, thanks. Just when you think you've heard it all as far as Russian incompetence and corruption goes, there's more. Lots more. Read the long version for more details. You have to use a translator but it works fine.

Sweet Jesus, unbelievable.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:36 pm to
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This shite is still ongoing? I thought Ukraine was using all of our money and weapons systems to kick Putin out? What happened?


I think people are going to learn how Russia is. They just keep going at it. No matter how it looks, they are Russian and this is what they do.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:52 pm to
I said in the beginning to not make the mistake of underestimating the Russians ability to withstand a long and drawn out conflict.

I was told they lost because they didn’t conquer Ukraine in the first week
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70776 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Russia needs to sell that natural gas due lack of pipelines to others could purchase it.


It seems like Russia is currently behaving like Reddit Stonks posters. Russia is gambling that they can remain retarded longer than the West can remain solvent. By that, I mean that the German economy is about to collapse because its industrial sector cannot produce anything without natural gas as a feed stock or energy source.

It's a very dumb gamble, but I guess we'll just have to watch it play out.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16205 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 3:34 pm to
Ukraine has hacked FSB files which name the German elected officials on Putin's payroll. Germany cannot backdown now.

I am willing to bet that the officials responsible for closing nuke and coal to rely on unicorn urine power are on that list
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 3:40 pm to
Take a look at the recent agreements between Erdogan, Putin, and Raisi. They’ve got a good chance and Iran hasn’t even received our money yet.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5761 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 4:07 pm to
Russian jet plane shot down in Kherson region
Tuesday, 19 July 2022, 20:45

Anti-aircraft missile forces of the Air Force of Ukraine have shot down a Russian fighter jet in the area of ??Nova Kakhovka.

Source: press service of the Ukrainian Air Forces command

Quote: "Around 20:00 on 19 July, a Russian fighter jet, presumably an Su-35, was shot down by a unit of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ??Nova Kakhovka.

The Russian fighter attempted to attack Close Air Support aircraft of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

There is visual confirmation that the plane was shot down. The pilot ejected."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 4:10 pm to
See, this same jet is making the rounds now. 2 conflicting stories.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13171 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 4:17 pm to
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the German economy is about to collapse because its industrial sector cannot produce anything without natural gas as a feed stock or energy source.


The Germans have been moving away from energy intensive production in Germany for a while. No coincidence that BASF is expanding in Geismar again. I worked there long ago and when Germans came to visit they couldn't believe how much land the site has. German facilities are very cramped and being choked by regulations, and paying a huge price for energy. European fertilizer production is totally screwed.
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