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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:55 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:55 pm to lowspark12
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Wanna know how to dissuade future wars?… by supporting your allies.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:00 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Wanna know how to dissuade future wars?… by supporting your allies.
Care to explain your logic?
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:13 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
24+ to join Wagner Group
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:17 pm to StormyMcMan
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Care to explain your logic?
I imagine it is like having a few friends on the playground and once every few weeks a bully comes and beats up one of your smaller friends. If you do nothing there will continue to be fights. If all your friends do over and kick the shite out of the bully (more apropos here hand your friend a steel pipe so he can do it himself) then the bully will think long and hard about starting another fight. Stick with your friends and fewer fights will occur.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:18 pm to HeadSlash
Unless he declares war he is hamstrung to using private contractors/ It's not like Russians are running out to sign a contract (which are for 4 months but like Hotel California)
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:20 pm to SoFla Tideroller
There is no such thing as free trade internationally. It gets worse without flexing military muscle when needed. This is something that most libertarian non interventionists types just have zero clue about.
The idiots who complain about the ExIm plant which actually benefits suppliers of things made in the USA have zero clue about elsewhere in the world. 80% bridge loan for made in the USA. 90% bridge loan by the EU if made in the EU. Asian nations is 100% and/or the government subsidizes enough undercut everyone else.
Flexing military muscle changes the paradigm in other nations wanting to appease as well as being less aggressive.
The idiots who complain about the ExIm plant which actually benefits suppliers of things made in the USA have zero clue about elsewhere in the world. 80% bridge loan for made in the USA. 90% bridge loan by the EU if made in the EU. Asian nations is 100% and/or the government subsidizes enough undercut everyone else.
Flexing military muscle changes the paradigm in other nations wanting to appease as well as being less aggressive.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:26 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Let me guess...You think Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin received their financial support for the Bolshevik revolution from, Russians?
It was teh JOOZ
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:27 pm to StormyMcMan
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Care to explain your logic?
Sure
I once said that same thing to a Vietnam vet when I was a 21 year old snotty nosed George Bush flag waving smartass dipshit. He didn't say a word. Just looked me square in the eye and walked away shaking his head.
I knew I was wrong then at that point, but I didn't know why. Then I found out the truth of the world as the years went by.
Don't' expect me to plant 30 years of knowledge about the world into your head, especially if you're not willing to listen
Your tax dollars and your grandparent's social security funds are stolen by the US govt. That money is sent to other countries around the world, if those countries agree to buy weapons from "our" military industrial complex companies.
So in other words, our money is stolen by the MIC companies, who then launder it out to NGO's and every measure of entity that keeps war going and wants you dead.
"Dissuade future wars"?? "allies"? Please
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:39 pm to Jim Rockford
The Bolsheviks were described as a Jewish movement at the time. Party leadership was predominantly Jewish.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:56 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Bolsheviks were described as a Jewish movement at the time. Party leadership was predominantly Jewish.
You fricking orc. You’ll say anything, won’t you? Okay, pal, put up or shut up. Put up some links or slink back under your rock.
The fake threat of Jewish communism
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Feeding the war will not end it, just cause it to drag on with no diplomacy.
The current war in Europe could have been prevented in the 40’s right after the fall of Germany, but evidently a fender bender kills a General but not his dog. The Russians should have been dealt with when Germany feel, but here we are.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:08 pm to Kentucker
ISW update
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The Russian Defense Ministry announced that the Russian operational pause has concluded on July 16, confirming ISW’s July 15 assessment.
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Ukrainian HIMARS strikes against Russian ammunition depots, logistics elements, and command and control are likely degrading Russian artillery campaigns
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Key Takeaways
The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the cessation of the operational pause, confirming ISW’s July 15 assessment that Russian forces are likely resuming ground attacks along multiple axes of advance. The cessation of the operational pause is unlikely to lead to a massive increase in ground attacks across Ukraine but will rather likely be characterized by continued limited ground assaults focused on the Slovyansk-Siversk-Bakhmut salient.
The Kremlin may have ordered Russian forces to take control of the entirety of Kharkiv Oblast, despite the extraordinary low likelihood of Russian success in such an effort.
Russian forces conducted limited ground assaults around Siversk and Bakhmut and otherwise fired on Ukrainian military and civilian infrastructure across Eastern Ukraine.
Russian occupation authorities likely are responding to the perceived threat of Ukrainian partisan activities by strengthening administrative regimes in occupied areas.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 8:12 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Your tax dollars and your grandparent's social security funds are stolen by the US govt. That money is sent to other countries around the world, if those countries agree to buy weapons from "our" military industrial complex companies.
Sounds like a good deal for us. They fight our enemies like Russia for us AND buy the stuff to do it from us.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:22 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Good because I can well remember a number of USMC Vietnam vets to say the opposite of this, though most have passed away the last two decades. One flew with McCain, but that is another story about why he wouldn't vote for him as dog catcher when I asked during the 2000 primaries.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:39 pm to CitizenK
John was a good guy and you are a ducking little prick for throwing shite at a dead veteran you pos mfer
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:41 pm to TutHillTiger
I bet you never fought a ducking day in your life, never bleed a drop of blood, probably haven’t stick your miserable head out of a basement for years.
have your “friend” come on here and talk shite about John mfer
have your “friend” come on here and talk shite about John mfer
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:55 pm to TutHillTiger
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John was a good guy
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:16 pm to TutHillTiger
Good grief lets go the leftist authoritarian film producer Oliver Stone who also served in Vietnam while we are at it.
FWIW, I was in the last lottery draft, went to college instead of enlisting. My number was never pulled.
As far as the former Senator, what I asked my friend about was the rumors about him flipping to the Vietnamese while in POW camp. Hal told me a whole lot more about what a jerk he was and that is why he would never vote for him as a VERY solid GOP voter. On the POW issue, I was told that every man has a breaking point and it could be something no one suspects, so if he sang away, that was only being human. His history was of blaming everyone in his squad or his flight crew for his NUMEROUS screw ups and really shouldn't have been a fighter pilot. Hal was also the son of a family with a history of being generals, but in the Army. Being a rebel he registered in NROTC before his 19th birthday when it was expected of him to be in a military academy, ROTC or enlist on his 18th birthday.
Tuthill used to be a very popular blower in chemicals/plastics
FWIW, I was in the last lottery draft, went to college instead of enlisting. My number was never pulled.
As far as the former Senator, what I asked my friend about was the rumors about him flipping to the Vietnamese while in POW camp. Hal told me a whole lot more about what a jerk he was and that is why he would never vote for him as a VERY solid GOP voter. On the POW issue, I was told that every man has a breaking point and it could be something no one suspects, so if he sang away, that was only being human. His history was of blaming everyone in his squad or his flight crew for his NUMEROUS screw ups and really shouldn't have been a fighter pilot. Hal was also the son of a family with a history of being generals, but in the Army. Being a rebel he registered in NROTC before his 19th birthday when it was expected of him to be in a military academy, ROTC or enlist on his 18th birthday.
Tuthill used to be a very popular blower in chemicals/plastics
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:23 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Your tax dollars and your grandparent's social security funds are stolen by the US govt. That money is sent to other countries around the world, if those countries agree to buy weapons from "our" military industrial complex companies.
So in other words, our money is stolen by the MIC companies, who then launder it out to NGO's and every measure of entity that keeps war going and wants you dead.
"Dissuade future wars"?? "allies"? Please
Posted on 7/17/22 at 12:35 am to CitizenK
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I was told that every man has a breaking point and it could be something no one suspects, so if he sang away, that was only being human.
Given the number of pilots here I imagine there are a good number of people ITT that have been through SERE. The resistance portion of SERE will teach you everyone has a breaking point, period. The important part is resisting long enough that the tactical intel you are privy to is no longer actionable by the time you reveal it. McCain was in a camp for over 5 years. I have no issue with someone blowing Uncle Ho nightly after that much time. SERE where I knew it was all "play" (though the instructors make it hard to remember that at times) still fricked me up for several months.
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