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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:56 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:56 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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No, AU86 said he hoped every Russian that crossed the border dies. It’s fricked up and childish.
Every Russian soldier who crosses the Ukrainian border is authorized to kill Ukrainians. So the logic is to kill every Russian soldier before he kills Ukrainians.
You. fricking. Idiot.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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When you subsidize war, you get more war.
We've started our share of wars. And I am against that as we all should be.
But we didn't start this war. We're doing what we have to do to end it.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:58 am to No Colors
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We've started our share of wars. And I am against that as we all should be.
But we didn't start this war. We're doing what we have to do to end it.
Feeding the war will not end it, just cause it to drag on with no diplomacy.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
When you create and wage war, you get more war.
The Russians are learning this.
The Russians are learning this.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:04 pm to nitwit
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When you create and wage war, you get more war.
The Russians are learning this.
I don't disagree.
But I don't live in Russia, and our politicians are the ones I am the most concerned with. We have a really shitty track record..
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't disagree.
Wanna know how to dissuade future wars?… by supporting your allies.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 12:55 pm to Kentucker
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Every Russian soldier who crosses the Ukrainian border is authorized to kill Ukrainians. So the logic is to kill every Russian soldier before he kills Ukrainians. You. fricking. Idiot.
I swear to god everyone in this thread is a teenager or stay at home mom.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Feeding the war will not end it, just cause it to drag on with no diplomacy.
You think diplomacy would work if the Russian army took Kiev? They would just be planning their next conquest.
We give the Ukes the weapons that they need to encircle and destroy the Russian army in the Donbas. Putin then suffers a bad fall in the Kremlin. Then we use diplomacy to get them out of Crimea and restore Ukrainian borders as per international law.
That's how the fewest people die in the shortest amount of time. And Russia learns a lesson that it will forget. But not for another 20 or 30 years.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:16 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Wait. They don't do bayonet training anymore? Well, damn. Guess I'm old too.
*somebody is going to call me old because I had bayonet training just like it is still NBC (not CBRN) to me, that's OK I still know how to properly parry and butt stroke a MFer.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I swear to god everyone in this thread is a teenager or stay at home mom.
Thankfully we have you here.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:32 pm to No Colors
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We give the Ukes the weapons that they need to encircle and destroy the Russian army in the Donbas. Putin then suffers a bad fall in the Kremlin. Then we use diplomacy to get them out of Crimea and restore Ukrainian borders as per international law.
That's how the fewest people die in the shortest amount of time. And Russia learns a lesson that it will forget. But not for another 20 or 30 years.
Vlad would bring in extra troops to prevent that.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 2:49 pm to No Colors
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But we didn't start this war. We're doing what we have to do to end it.
Why is it up to us to end it? Russia is no threat to the US. Hell, by their obvious incompetency and technological deficit they're barely a regional threat. Even if those boobs manage to stumble their way to complete victory in Ukraine, they have wrecked their military and their economy for decades. Western Europe is more than capable of defending themselves against the Russian teddy bear.
You know as well as I do if we just dump cash to the Ukraine very little of it is going to buy beans, bullets and band aids. Hell, a good percentage isn't going to make it out of the Beltway. And if we give them cutting edge weapons, some are going to get siphoned off and sold to the Chinese and reverse engineered against us.
Not our fight, not our problem.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:08 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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You know as well as I do if we just dump cash to the Ukraine very little of it is going to buy beans, bullets and band aids
I'm not talking about cash. I'm talking about missiles and tanks and other items that get consumed on the battlefield. If we send them 16 more HIMARS, 32 Grey Eagle drones, and 300 more Polish tanks, along with the fuel and ammo, the Ukes could break through on the southern front, take Kherson, and besiege Mariupol within a month.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 3:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:If you've posted this once, you've posted it 100 times. I don't remember you crying so much a few years ago. What happened?
I swear to god everyone in this thread is a teenager or stay at home mom.
Go find another thread if this one is so annoying.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 4:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:You've tried to be careful to straddle the fence, because, somewhere, deep in that jarhead brain, you still understand that its poor form to openly cheer for Russia. But we have 1300 pages here. It's not hard to connect the dots.
I challenge you to find one pro Russian post from me
Just a few pages back, you tried to draw a moral equivalence between a dictator invading a neighboring country and committing war crimes against its civilian population with a poster saying mean things about Russian soldiers on a message board, for god's sake.
You aren't fooling anyone. At least Winston is upfront with his bullshite.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:04 pm to No Colors
Yes those things will certainly help but 2 squadrons of our older f-16’s that we are getting ready to pull out of service would do more for them than just about anything. While they could teach Ukrainian pilots to fly the aircraft in a week or two it would take a few months to train them in proper tactics so it wouldn’t make much of a difference before the winter set in. Eventually other countries are going to have to contribute more howitzers for the front lines. We can’t be expected to supply the vast majority of our M777 inventory and they will need at least another 200 pieces of artillery to be able to properly counter Russia’s amount of guns.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:28 pm to LSUPilot07
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can’t be expected to supply the vast majority of our M777 inventory and they will need at least another 200 pieces of artillery to be able to properly counter Russia’s amount of guns.
Kiev asked for 1,000 howitzers.
200 would make some difference, but it doesn’t meet their needs.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:33 pm to Lima Whiskey
Maybe we should supply them with 1000 or so cruise missies that can reach into Russia and touch Putin.
This is same stupidity we used in Korea and Vietnam, having areas we can’t touch
This is same stupidity we used in Korea and Vietnam, having areas we can’t touch
Posted on 7/16/22 at 5:35 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I swear to god everyone in this thread is a teenager or stay at home mom.
Bruh. When every single person in this thread is telling you that you're a dumbass. Its not them, its you.
The others (Lima, Ruff, Palmetto, etc.) at least know they are dumbasses.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:37 pm to AU86
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instead of continuing to whine and bitch about the media
??? wow
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. I don't support Biden or his scum bag son in any way,
yes, you do. You absolutely do. Every day in this thread.
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a country or government as evil as Putin to exact my revenge/frustration on an innocent Ukrainian people
who do you think created ISIS and "the while helmets"? Do you think the white helmets in Syria were good guys? I'll bet you do, because Fox news repeated that same bullshite from Anderson Cooper.
These same entities created and/or supported the Nazi govt of Western Ukraine, and began atrocities in Donbass in 2014 - I know, you didn't want to hear it a year ago or still now.
Let me guess...You think Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin received their financial support for the Bolshevik revolution from, Russians?
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