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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:06 pm to
Ukrainian forces shell a Russian munitions dump in Zaporizhia Oblast

One round is all it took.

Twitter video
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Sadly, ours isn't "state controlled"


Functionally, it is

When a journalist writes an article in Washington, their working for their source, not for you the reader.

All the leaks, and inside accounts, are just the various departments putting out the stories they want the public to hear.

Journalists in Washington are mostly just stenographers. They’ll continue to get these scoops, stories, provided they faithfully pass on the message.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36166 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:09 pm to
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One round is all it took.




Here's an eyewitness account of the Ukranian soldier manning the guns

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:17 pm to
IMO, it's a pay me now or pay me more later. This considers Putin's actual publicly stated goals of restoring Russia to the borders of the USSR which includes countries now members of NATO which the USA is bound by treaty to participate in defending.

These people might not ever change the oil in their vehicle expecting to save money.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:24 pm to
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What if this is a long-term side effect of the Saudi-Russia oil price war?


What if all that is a lie and it's just the side effect of trying to implement the green new deal?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:25 pm to
Covid exposed how reliant the world is on just in time deliveries. Presently, it is quite difficult to get parts from manucfacturers of industrial equipment, all made in the USA parts from USA materials. What was a week delivery is up to 5-6 months delivery now due parts warehouses are bare thanks to manufacturing compliance with Covid protocols.

It's even worse for things made overseas. I'm having real issues with trying to get some hydrogen compressors (6000 HP worth) for a client who needs them NOW due its compressor is down for repairs and only needs those purchased via me for 6 months.

Your Amazon order might be important to you, but these shortages are having for more impact to everyone

ZERO to do with Russia
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:25 pm to
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have more oil than any country in the world. We were energy independent under Trump. It is absolutely ridiculous that we refuse to drill right now when if something goes terribly wrong we’ll be fricked.


Anyone that would down vote your post is either a idiot or hates America or both
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
4107 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:25 pm to
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Try not to ignore the fact that gas had already doubled in price BEFORE Russia invaded Ukraine.


It had actually increased 517% before Russia invaded.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:36 pm to
You are ignorant as can be and know nothing.

1. The USA does NOT more oil than anyone in the world in known reserves. Canada and Venezuela each have more, a helluva a lot more.

2. Idiots keep telling me that there is 200 billion barrels of oil in the Permian Basin, its in the neighborhood of 50 billion per Trump's own administration.

3. Much of the oil from tight shale drilling is very light and refineries don't actually want it because to run the crude unit at or near nameplate capacity will vapor lock the plant. Go ahead and already cut finished gasoline and diesel produced in the USA by 30% if all refineries used it.

4. We do know of oil in the eastern 1/3 of the Gulf of Mexico, but Florida has kept that off limits for decades.

5. The USA might have been "energy independent" a few years ago but that is about total BTU values from all sources (oil, gas, coal, wind, solar, hydro, nuke, biomass). We have HAD to import oil every single year since 1943 to keep refineries running near capacity.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:38 pm to
I did because he is clueless with such a lie
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Sadly, ours isn't "state controlled"


Functionally, it is


I was being facetious. The US govt controls BigMedia. We hear what they want us to hear.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24292 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:40 pm to
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We have more oil than any country in the world. We were energy independent under Trump. It is absolutely ridiculous that we refuse to drill right now when if something goes terribly wrong we’ll be fricked.

I suspect we are drilling everything we can that can be permitted on private and state property. I'm not talking about ultra deep water which is a different animal. Perhaps federal rules are slowing down some permitting. We have produced much more oil underneath the US than remains to be produced. It is not an unlimited resource. So this energy scarceness stuff is really in the early stages.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:41 pm to
An oilfield cannot just be pumped as much as can come out of the ground. To do that fractures the formation in ways to leave recoverable oil as unrecoverable forever.

I can guarantee that Saudi Arabia carefully avoids over pumping a field just on a whim. Russia might not care about its future recoverable reserves
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Your Amazon order might be important to you, but these shortages are having for more impact to everyone


The shortages is due to shutting our country down unnecessarily for 2 years and giving thousands of dollars away for free
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:41 pm to
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We have more oil than any country in the world.



We do? That's not what the BP Statistical Review of oil specifically doesn't suggest that.

LINK

Is there some other source you are using?

quote:

We were energy independent under Trump.


I know nothing about oil markets. What's the difference between net oil imports and energy dependence or independence?

This article from Forbes says:

quote:

Most people view energy independence through the lens of our oil and gas production and consumption. These two sources represent 68% of U.S. energy consumption. When they see our net exports are positive, it is viewed as “energy independence.” When they turn negative, we are once again partially dependent. (In reality, we are always partially dependent, because even when our exports exceed our imports, we are still importing oil from other countries).


If that is the case, then this statistical review of all world energy, also by BP, is a little confusing, because it doesn't seem to use consistent dimensions, as in oil consumption and oil production are not such that you can subtract one from the other and get a meaningful answer.

This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:42 pm to
Plus what is coming up that is new is too light for refineries. That is why we are still exporting 2 million barrels per day
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15980 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:43 pm to
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oilfield cannot just be pumped as much as can come out of the ground. To do that fractures the formation in ways to leave recoverable oil as unrecoverable forever.


This might have held water had we not become the number 1 producer under Trump. Do you think our fields all of a sudden went dry? Open your eyes to reality
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:45 pm to
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IMO, it's a pay me now or pay me more later. This considers Putin's actual publicly stated goals of restoring Russia to the borders of the USSR which includes countries now members of NATO which the USA is bound by treaty to participate in defending.


That's exactly what I think. It's clear that Russian security concerns are just an excuse on the part of Russia to justify whatever extraterritorial ambitions it wants. We shouldn't have let them get away with annexing part of another country in 2014, which is among the greatest of Obama's many foreign policy mistakes. We will pay for a long time with his approach, which was psychotic in hindsight. He thought he was being visionary, taking the Brent Scowcroft model, but in reality he just kicked the can down the road so that another generation would pay. Everything he touched in terms of foreign policy went to shite.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16185 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:46 pm to
Well, let's call it 13 million BPD the best day ever under Trump, but 2 million BPD was exported, to supply 17 million BPD refining capacity.

That is NOT oil independent.

Now consider that much of that, say 5 million BPD was tight shale crude, nice and sweet but bad due so light. Refineries don't really want it. They lose capacity when refining it
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