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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:56 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:56 pm to Chromdome35
Today's update from ISW is out
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-19
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-19
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Ukrainian military officials reported that some Russian troops withdrawn from the Kharkiv City axis have redeployed to western Donetsk Oblast on May 19. The Ukrainian General Staff said that 260 servicemen withdrawn from the Kharkiv City axis arrived to replace the significant combat losses that the 107th Motorized Rifle Battalion has taken approximately 20 km southwest of Donetsk City.[1] The Ukrainian Military Directorate (GUR) intercepted a Russian serviceman’s call suggesting that some of the 400 servicemen from the Kharkiv City axis who had arrived elsewhere in Donbas were shocked by the intensity of the fighting there compared with what they had experienced in Kharkiv Oblast.[2]
Russian forces are continuing to suffer shortages of reserve manpower, causing the Russian military command to consolidate depleted battalion tactical groups (BTGs). An unnamed US defense official reported that Russian forces still have 106 BTGs operating in Ukraine but had to disband and combine some to compensate for losses.[3] Ukrainian General Staff Main Operations Deputy Chief Oleksiy Gromov reported that Russian forces are combining units of the Pacific and Northern Fleets at the permanent locations of the 40th Separate Marine Brigade and the 200th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade, respectively.[4] Gromov added that Russian forces are training servicemen in Krasnodar Krai to replenish units of the 49th Combined Arms Army and are trying to restore combat power of Russian units withdrawn from the battlefront in occupied Crimea.
Unknown Russian perpetrators conducted a series of Molotov cocktail attacks on Russian military commissariats throughout the country in May, likely in protest of covert mobilization. Russian media and local Telegram channels reported deliberate acts of arson against military commissariats in three Moscow Oblast settlements—Omsk, Volgograd, Ryazan Oblast, and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous District—between May 4 and May 18.[5] Ukrainian General Staff Main Operations Deputy Chief Oleksiy Gromov said that there were at least 12 cases of deliberate arson against military commissariats in total and five last week.[6] Russian officials caught two 16-year-olds in the act in one Moscow Oblast settlement, which suggests that Russian citizens are likely responsible for the attacks on military commissariats.[7]
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 5:59 pm to Chromdome35
On the Eastern Front
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Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to resume offensive operations southwest of Izyum and did not advance in the Slovyansk or Lyman directions on May 19.[8] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces suffered significant losses and retreated after a failed assault on Velyka Komyshuvakha approximately 23 km southwest of Izyum.[9] Ukrainian General Staff Main Operations Deputy Chief Oleksiy Gromov said that Russian forces are resuming the Slovyansk offensive despite the loss of offensive capabilities.[10] Ukrainian artillery struck Russian electronic warfare (EW) equipment 7 km from Izyum on May 18.[11]
Russian forces intensified efforts to advance north and west of Popasna in preparation for the Battle of Severodonetsk. Ukrainian officials reported that Russian forces conducted several unsuccessful assaults in settlements leading to the Lysychansk and Bahmut highways near Popasna.[12] The Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) claimed to have encircled Ukrainian troops in Zolote and Hirske, approximately 12 and 14 km northeast of Popasna, respectively.[13] ISW cannot independently confirm this LNR claim. Russian forces also attempted to break Ukrainian defenses west and east of Avdiivka without any success and maintained heavy shelling in the area.[14]
Russian troops have begun operating at a company scale rather than at the level of a BTG to focus on seizing specific villages in Donbas, according to US officials.[15] An unnamed US defense official also noted that Russian forces are still facing challenges in coordinating communication between commanders and synchronizing artillery fire in supporting ground assaults.[16] ISW previously reported that some Russian military bloggers criticized the Russian reconnaissance-strike complex due to its excessively centralized approval system for artillery fire.[17] A pro-Russian military Telegram channel criticized the current Russian strategy, claiming that Russian forces are hitting a “strategic dead end” and are suffering significant losses trying to slowly capture small villages in different directions.[18]
>Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:00 pm to Chromdome35
In the Northern Area
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Russian forces focused on maintaining their positions north of Kharkiv City to prevent further Ukrainian advances on May 19.[23] The Ukrainian General Staff noted that Russian troops conducted unspecified and unsuccessful counterattacks in an attempt to restore lost positions around Kharkiv City.[24] Deputy Chief of the Main Operations Department of the Ukrainian General Staff Brigadier General Oleksiy Gromov reported that the Ukrainian counteroffensive in northern Kharkiv Oblast has liberated 23 settlements since May 5, but did not name the settlements.[25] Russian troops continued to conduct artillery attacks on Ukrainian positions and suburban settlements around Kharkiv City.[26]
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Yes, because not wholeheartedly supporting a regime so corrupt it would make New Orleans blush that also contains military units LITERALLY DISPLAYING NAZI INSIGNIA AND SYMBOLS automatically makes one an anti-Semite. Really???
Arguendo that is all true it should amaze you that Russia is still the greater of two evils and it ain't even close.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:26 pm to Chromdome35
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Russian troops have begun operating at a company scale rather than at the level of a BTG to focus on seizing specific villages in Donbas, according to US officials.[15] An unnamed US defense official also noted that Russian forces are still facing challenges in coordinating communication between commanders and synchronizing artillery fire in supporting ground assaults.
War is hard
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:26 pm to kingbob
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Couldn't it be argued that Ukraine is winning the war WITHOUT our $40 billion, and thus that the $40 billion could be better spent in the U.S. on things like:
1. Building a pipeline from the Mississippi River to the Colorado River to replenish Lake Meade and ease drought issues in California and Nevada.
2. Building additional capacity for producing baby formula to end the shortages.
3. Repairing bottlenecks at our nation's ports and railroad lines to ease the supply chain crisis.
4. Securing more sources for fertilizer to prevent crop failures and famine.
The nation's defense is one of the primary responsibilities that few if any would argue should be done by the states. Whether you see it or not the money spent in Ukraine to help in their fight against Russia is some of the best bang for the buck military/defense spending we have done in a LONG time.
When you can get other people to fight your enemy and give them a weapon that costs $175k to kill a $5 million dollar tank and the crew and all the resources spent to train them and never jeopardize the life of a single one of your military that is a big win. That is like playing with house money.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 6:59 pm to Obtuse1
1) an extremely crappy idea.
2) Apparently, military jets are flying back from Europe with approved product so two birds, one stone
3)this is going to take decades and more than 40 billion- add on a passenger hypertrain rail while you are at.
4)pretty sure helping Ukraine win this war will help with this as they usually export quite a bit.
2) Apparently, military jets are flying back from Europe with approved product so two birds, one stone
3)this is going to take decades and more than 40 billion- add on a passenger hypertrain rail while you are at.
4)pretty sure helping Ukraine win this war will help with this as they usually export quite a bit.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:04 pm to WeeWee
Yes, because if you're not all in on dumping $40billion of our money to a shady regime it must mean you're a defacto Putin fan. 
Dipshit...
Dipshit...
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:18 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Yes, because if you're not all in on dumping $40billion of our money to a shady regime it must mean you're a defacto Putin fan.
Actually a lot of pro Russian sentiment had been shown way before the 40 Billion dollar deal was announced..
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:20 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Yes, because if you're not all in on dumping $40billion of our money to a shady regime it must mean you're a defacto Putin fan.
I'd rather do that than have multiple states accidentally give hundreds of millions of dollars in unemployment to random-assed Nigerians. At least we get some fireworks for our money.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:23 pm to northshorebamaman
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It's fricking mind-blowing how you make lemonade out of Russian piss.
Firing people is a good sign. It means they’re holding people accountable.
Look at how the USN fires officers.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:32 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
The US Army was ruthless about firing even generals. If you did not perform, you would be sacked.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:36 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Look at how the USN fires officers
The USN fires unit level Captains/Commanders, not Admirals (Absent a literal crime). The executive branch ousting senior command is substantially different than senior command ousting subordinate officers (even if the are O-5 of O-6) for a specific criteria.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:40 pm to Lima Whiskey
You’re a schmuck you know that? There’s absolutely no moral reason anyone can side with Putin and what he is doing. I don’t care what kind of country it is and Ukraine are not angels by any stretch of the imagination but they are a much smaller nation that was invaded and you act like they are terrorists for actually fighting back effectively. And in the end Russia may very well take Odesa and maybe into Moldova but at this rate they better be prepared to lose 250,000 lives and thousands of pieces of armor and hundred of aircraft to do it leaving them completely exposed to everyone in the world, especially us.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 7:44 pm to BRIllini07
The Russians have regrouped and are starting to really advance in Ukraine.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:11 pm to Centinel
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So just to be clear, you're for the increase of welfare and other social programs in this country?
It would be a damn sight better than wasting the money in Ukraine.
But no, I’d rather we spend it on infrastructure repairs.
But just to be clear, you’re for completely wasting $40Bn in Ukraine? Got it.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:33 pm to LSUPilot07
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You’re a schmuck you know that? There’s absolutely no moral reason anyone can side with Putin and what he is doing. I don’t care what kind of country it is and Ukraine are not angels by any stretch of the imagination but they are a much smaller nation that was invaded and you act like they are terrorists for actually fighting back effectively. And in the end Russia may very well take Odesa and maybe into Moldova but at this rate they better be prepared to lose 250,000 lives and thousands of pieces of armor and hundred of aircraft to do it leaving them completely exposed to everyone in the world, especially us.
Dear Lord you and 90% of this board are acting like a bunch of women and being outraged over something that literally has zero affect on your lives. Take a step back and look at this shite rationally. BTW, looking at it rationally and like an adult will hopefully still have you rooting for Ukraine but most of you need to go sit in the corner and let the adults talk. And by most of you I mean the people have been keeping this thread going by posting every thought or Twitter post they see on the war.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:44 pm to Warfox
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But just to be clear, you’re for completely wasting $40Bn in Ukraine? Got it.
When you can destroy assets of the #2 military power in the world that is NOT your ally for pennies on the dollar with ZERO loss of US servicemen's and women's lives that is far from a complete waste, more like the polar opposite.
Russia probably lost around half a billion dollars worth of assets in just the failed Donets River crossing alone.
This is also a show of serious BDE for the West. Throw a bunch of relatively low sophistication (for the West) arms into the hands of Ukraine and they start playing like the 2019 Tigers even though they are a middling DII team. It is an incredibly low price to pay to make China for example rethink their expansion desires.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:56 pm to MrLSU
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The Russians have regrouped and are starting to really advance in Ukraine.
I'm sure Kharkiv will fall any day now, right?
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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And by most of you I mean the people have been keeping this thread going by posting every thought or Twitter post they see on the war.
Keeping this thread alive through the culmination and eventual retreat of the Russian horde is my Alamo. Me posting in this thread and those nazis holding out in the Azov Steelworks are basically the same. Kind of like how Russia and Ukraine are equally corrupt and culpable in this whole affair.
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