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Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:22 pm to rooloumama
It’s dumb.
Some jobs you can do from home some jobs you can’t.
But any desk jobs with tractable metrics for performance can be done from home. and if they fall below those metric maybe then you bring them in or let them
go completely.
I took a job at a big corporation at the very end of covid and the conversation was: Oh well be coming back in, probably hybrid at first.
and within 6 months they announced we are subleasing the office.
they looked at their metrics, realized we were meeting them at home and that they could save money not leasing office space.
Now if you own a campus or building like the state thats another factor.
Some jobs you can do from home some jobs you can’t.
But any desk jobs with tractable metrics for performance can be done from home. and if they fall below those metric maybe then you bring them in or let them
go completely.
I took a job at a big corporation at the very end of covid and the conversation was: Oh well be coming back in, probably hybrid at first.
and within 6 months they announced we are subleasing the office.
they looked at their metrics, realized we were meeting them at home and that they could save money not leasing office space.
Now if you own a campus or building like the state thats another factor.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:26 pm to rooloumama
Good. State workers need to be an available and working.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:47 pm to Dixie2023
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Good. State workers need to be an available and working.
So do lawyers, insurance agents and bankers....bankers are the absolute worse
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:49 pm to Dixie2023
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Good. State workers need to be an available and working.
Those same workers who are unavailable because they're spending 10 minutes doing the laundry are still going to be "unavailable" in the office, they'll just be beside Susie's desk gossiping or at the coffee pot hearing about Tom's son's little league game.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:54 pm to TooFyeToFly
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TooFyeToFly
Found the angry statey
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:58 pm to pelicansfan123
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Those same workers who are unavailable because they're spending 10 minutes doing the laundry are still going to be "unavailable" in the office, they'll just beside Susie's desk gossiping or at the coffee pot hearing about Tom's son's little league game.
Or if younger, they'll spend the entire day staring at their phones and moving their mouse every once in a while so that their screen stays on.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:12 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
yep it's impossible to frick off at work if you are in the building and instead of at home 
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:45 pm to cbree88
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The only way you can’t do that is if it’s vague as to what the employee actually does for you and there are no performance targets. In that case, the job position shouldn’t exist at all in the first place whether it’s remote or in-person.
Those people can still be valuable as part of the team... vagueness isn't a good reason for positions not to exist
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:52 pm to nino2469
I like what this company does
Option 1) work from home but you’re on the clock your whole normal shift, so 8 total hours available at all time during those 8 hours
Option 2) go in the office to work but you only work 8am to 1pm
Option 1) work from home but you’re on the clock your whole normal shift, so 8 total hours available at all time during those 8 hours
Option 2) go in the office to work but you only work 8am to 1pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:54 pm to cbree88
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just to make feel-good political statements?
This is a big part of it. It’s like virtue signaling. I believe that state employees in Texas have started returning to the office and all state agencies are expected to be 100% in-office by the fall. I’ve heard that they are trying to avoid a mass exodus of employees by offering increased opportunities for OT, alternative work schedules, etc. It will be interesting to see how this plays out and if it ends up blowing up in Governor Abbott’s face.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:55 pm to Bonkers119
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definitely this. The one thing that covid taught us was that the office structure is not needed in like 80% of businesses.
I'll never understand why corporations would want to spend more money on overhead rather than let their employees wfh.
Hmmm....maybe what they learned is that the office structure is needed because productivity fell, collaboration suffered, and timelines were extended due to lack of responsiveness from WFH employees.
That's what happened in my line of work, can't speak for others.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:59 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Or if younger, they'll spend the entire day staring at their phones and moving their mouse every once in a while so that their screen stays on.
And playing with their dingaling!!
Posted on 4/25/25 at 2:01 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s dumb.
Some jobs you can do from home some jobs you can’t.
But any desk jobs with tractable metrics for performance can be done from home. and if they fall below those metric maybe then you bring them in or let them
go completely.
I took a job at a big corporation at the very end of covid and the conversation was: Oh well be coming back in, probably hybrid at first.
and within 6 months they announced we are subleasing the office.
they looked at their metrics, realized we were meeting them at home and that they could save money not leasing office space.
Now if you own a campus or building like the state thats another factor.
Accountability is an issue at a lot of state agencies. It takes a lot for someone to come down on you.
also, if they did institute allowing you to work from home on the basis of proven performance, the ones who don't pass muster will cry foul how it isn't fair they can't work from home too, and it will work. LA civil service has no interest in running up stream or having a metric based on performance.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 2:17 pm to nino2469
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yep it's impossible to frick off at work if you are in the building and instead of at home
You can crank hog at the office?!?!
News to me
Posted on 4/25/25 at 2:19 pm to DakIsNoLB
quote:regardless of wfh
Accountability is an issue at a lot of state agencies.
Most state agencies suck.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:15 pm to Burt Reynolds
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You can crank hog at the office?!?!
"Crankin' hogs and droppin' logs" is how we get through the day...
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:19 pm to rooloumama
While I'm actually fine with that, it's another look at me- self serving move by Landry, which is what I've come to find all of his actions are.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:13 pm to chalmetteowl
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vagueness isn't a good reason for positions not to exist
Yes it is. I hope you’re not serious with this.
Every job should have objectives, goals, performance benchmarks, etc.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:20 pm to rooloumama
I look forward to the increased traffic in Baton Rouge.
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