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Lack of meaningful Covid stats

Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:51 pm
is frustrating. Here in AL we get total of confirmed cases statewide and by county. Nothing on recoveries, hospitalizations or vent use. I hear that the number of Covid admissions at UAB has declined and stabilized, with discharges offsetting Covid admissions. With all the screaming about medical capacity and vent shortages, it would be helpful to know what the situation is. And if the number recovering is close to or equal to new confirmations, that tells me we are in a pretty good place. Our leaders must have this info. If they are going to ask us to remain shut down, they should share it with us. And of course, the media is doing nothing.
Posted by MileHigh_Tiger
The penalty box
Member since Mar 2020
179 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:53 pm to
Meaningful stats and the sky-screaming by the news wouldn't jive with one another?
Posted by Dustydubs
Member since Mar 2020
483 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:58 pm to
The only truly meaningful stat would be how many people have actually already caught this crud and are over it. An antibody test , anything else is just Afterthought.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:59 pm to
You aren’t going to get recovery numbers for a long time.

Just have to accept it
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53019 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:02 pm to
I love it when the thin privileged think we should open their gyms and juice bars back up because they know it won’t be bad for them. People of size are dying by the thousands and all you people are worried about is your 6 pack
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:10 pm to
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the media is doing nothing.



I can't believe that the state of Alabama itself is not publishing recoveries, hospitalizations and vent use.

Most other states are. In NY, state and city officials have been updating these numbers daily for 2 weeks.


Seems Alabama not publishing them just adds to the sense of unease since most people will assume that they'd certainly put them out if they were good news.


Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Seems Alabama not publishing them just adds to the sense of unease since most people will assume that they'd certainly put them out if they were good news.


I suspect that it is the opposite. If I had to guess we are nowhere close to testing hospital and vent capacity and won't be. If you want to shut everything down on the premise that it is required to keep our medical system afloat, fine. Just level with us and tell us the truth. We are adults. We can handle it.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:37 pm to
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I suspect that it is the opposite. If I had to guess we are nowhere close to testing hospital and vent capacity and won't be. If you want to shut everything down on the premise that it is required to keep our medical system afloat, fine. Just level with us and tell us the truth. We are adults. We can handle it.



Yeah, that was kind of my point.

Whatever reason state leadership has for not publishing these daily when most other states are (of which I'm aware), it just makes it seem worse.

Maybe they've had issues simply compiling data and don't want to admit that.


Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:43 pm to
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Whatever reason state leadership has for not publishing these daily when most other states are (of which I'm aware), it just makes it seem worse.

Maybe they've had issues simply compiling data and don't want to admit that.


Or another theory is that if they publish the numbers they are very low, well under capacity, and the politicians and media won’t be able to fear monger anybody into suffering for no reason. Florida keeps freaking out due to Miami while the rest of the state has very few cases for the most part and certainly well under 50% of hospital capacity. Most of our citizens got it from traveling elsewhere because we have a lot of 2nd homes and visitors.

Nola has Mardi Gras at potentially one of the worst times possible for it to occur due to this virus. That’s likely a major reason for Louisiana’s issues right now. Outside of some big city hot spots that have a lot of travelers, many places in the USA have very few cases compared to hospital capacity.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39386 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:53 pm to
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Whatever reason state leadership has for not publishing these daily when most other states are (of which I'm aware), it just makes it seem worse.

Nah, man, it’s not a conspiracy. It’s just that all the smart people in your state are on Nick Saban’s shadow staff.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:55 pm to
We have a little over 1000 "confirmed cases" state wide in AL and 299 in Jefferson County. I'll bet that at least a quarter of these "cases" are now recovered, but you never hear about that. Instead, the media just keeps adding to the number. Hell, I keep hearing stories of people who are essentially over it by the time they get their positive result back.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:55 pm to
All the numbers you could want from Johns Hopkins

Zoom in on the map for state and local info.

I don't think anyone has the numbers on down to the hospital level.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54336 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 7:59 pm to
I agree. We have to piece together what may happen to be said by multipe sources, and that doesn't really help. They have models from other states they could follow, but for whatever reason they choose not to.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:04 pm to
I know about Johns Hopkins. It gives you confirmed cases and deaths. That's it.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:06 pm to
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I know about Johns Hopkins. It gives you confirmed cases and deaths. That's it.


It gives you recoveries too, like I said I don't think stats exist on the individual hospital level, if they do then it's only the states that have them and in that case if they do you are right they are not being released in detail.
Posted by TruBrew
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2019
2261 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:08 pm to
Do the recoveries make you feel better about the deaths?
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:10 pm to
That says no one has recovered in Mobile County. I don’t fricking buy that.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113964 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:16 pm to
I haven't seen that map. I like this one.

It shows that the US has 4,757 deaths and 8,574 recoveries.

There will never be away to know the real numbers, which would probably be a lot higher.

But I know these China numbers are not accurate but this is just too obvious.
Deaths: 3,316. Recovery: 76,405..
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22535 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:18 pm to
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That says no one has recovered in Mobile County. I don’t fricking buy that.

It doesn’t list recoveries for most of the dots across the country
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:18 pm to
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Do the recoveries make you feel better about the deaths?



No. But the ratio of recoveries to newly confirmed cases seems like important information to me.
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