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re: LA Times: Getting shot by police is a leading cause of death for U.S. black men

Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Based on the assumption that every black guy has the same yearly chance of getting shot, which is absolute bullshite of the highest order.


That's not the way the numbers work. The article is clearly misleading, but the numbers and methodology are probably sound.

The conclusions are where people should be rightfully suspect.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10949 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

That makes them 2.5 times more likely than white men and boys to die during an encounter with cops.

Quit resisting by shooting at, running from, and trying to run over the police, then. That rate of mortality will drop significantly.

Also, I literally don’t believe police kill more black men than sugar or high sodium. At all.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2497 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:45 pm to
Man, good thing i'm not in my 20's any more, I'm safe.
but with my luck any day now I'll get accidently assaulted by police, while I'm trying to commite suicide because my doctor just informed me that I have Heart related Aids cancer.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30701 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:48 pm to
100% fake news

nearly 2X+ more White men get killed by Police, than black, and Black men die to black men/teens.

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:51 pm to
Yeah. The police im Chicago, Detroit and NOLA are just racking up the body count. Sure. Believe that.

ETA: Black men kill other black men in an ungodly disproportionate amount compared to black men killed by police.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Based on the assumption that every black guy has the same yearly chance of getting shot, which is absolute bull shite of the highest order.


It is an extremely extremely racist assumption.

They get away with it by making the preposterous assumption that LEOs are so racist that all black men, regardless of behavior, circumstances, location, etc look the same to them.

It’s just really crazy and irresponsible journalism.
They know the likely negative consequences of reporting it like this, but they don’t care.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42212 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Based on the assumption that every black guy has the same yearly chance of getting shot, which is absolute bullshite of the highest order.


Exactly. Chances of me getting shot are 0%
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21626 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:56 pm to
Fake news to stir the pot!
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18883 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Also, I literally don’t believe police kill more black men than sugar or high sodium. At all.


It could be true for black men between the ages of 25-29, which is why they chose that range
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:57 pm to
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That's not the way the numbers work. The article is clearly misleading, but the numbers and methodology are probably sound.


Can you explain how the lifetime numbers work?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:00 pm to
From the study...

quote:

Asian / Pacific Islander men and boys face a lifetime risk of between 9 and 23 per 100,000, while white men and boys face a lifetime risk of about 39 [31, 48] per 100,000.


White boys are 4x more likely to be killed by the cops than Asian boys!!!!1!!1!!

Those dirty racist Asian cops must be killing white boys
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20581 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:02 pm to
If true.....QUIT BREAKING THE LAW
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20634 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:02 pm to
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That makes them 2.5 times more likely than white men and boys to die during an encounter with cops.
So what's your point?

You saying the cops need to shoot white men and boys to make it even???
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20634 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
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About 1 in 1,000 black men and boys in America can expect to die at the hands of police,
What are the statistics concerning who kills the most cops?
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
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About 1 in 1,000 black men and boys in America can expect to die at the hands of police
That is either a flat out lie or the author of that piece cannot read.

The chart doesn’t even say that.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43172 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:39 pm to
So they are just dismissing the Harvard study?
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5447 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:48 pm to
Meh, why is it so hard to understand that every now and then a cop has to shoot a criminal?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35878 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:52 pm to
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Complete and total bullshite. Absolutely no way that’s the LEADING cause of death.

Agreed. I want to see the actaul data on this study...and am too lazy to look at the link.

FYI, there are 40 million african americans in the US, which means that 40,000 will ultimately be killed by cops.

Yeah, no.

ETA: I see it was them cherry picking a particular age range and having a pretty lax definition of "leading cause". Click bait if ever there was one.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by GhostofRicht
Member since Sep 2019
62 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:01 pm to
The mortality rates are only taken from black males 25-29. Which is a super small group to use for their reference. You would think if this was so common, they would just use black deaths from 18-80. But my guess is that they had to skew the numbers so that it can factually fit their agenda. If they actually threw in 10, 20, 30, 40 years of black male adult life stats, I'm sure it would go against their agenda.

Also last time I pulled stats out of my arse, 84% of cops that shoot and kill black males from 25-29, are black themselves. Go figures.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35878 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:02 pm to
Well, all of that and add in the fact that even based on their own data these same people are 31 times more likely to die of assault (very likely at the hands of another black man) than they are to die from a cop.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 4:03 pm
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