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re: LA state sales tax raised to 5%
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:17 am to armytiger96
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:17 am to armytiger96
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Its the fireworks. The previous Mike quit into his trailer when they started the pyrotechnics as the team runs onto the field. Supposedly, the his vets told Alleva its fireworks or Mike and he chose fireworks.
This makes me hate Alleva even more. The fireworks are awful.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:38 am to Tigerpaw123
A stipend for teachers permanent but not a raise 
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:53 am to Bushmaster
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Nearly 11% tax to live in a crime ridden shithole Baton Rouge??![]()
The craziest part is taxes aren't even in the top 5 reasons to leave that shite hole.
Every day of my life I thank god for showing me the light to leave Louisiana and never go back.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:50 am to Tigerpaw123
Guess I need to read up a little more on this. Seniors on SS income only typically don't have state taxes taken out. Therefore the 3% across the board is a non-issue, however they like everyone else they will pay the added 1% sales tax.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:57 am to Judg7123
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For every hundred dollars you spend on taxable goods you pay an extra $0.55
An extra $5.50
[edit]: I was wrong!
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:28 am to marcus3000
quote:Not above what you were already paying in taxes. The tax went up 0.55 points from 4.45% to 5%.
An extra $5.50
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:28 am to marcus3000
Marcus:
No. The math is 55 cents
100 x 1% = 1
O.55 x $1 = 55 cents
No. The math is 55 cents
100 x 1% = 1
O.55 x $1 = 55 cents
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:31 am to Falco
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A stipend for teachers permanent but not a raise
I think they called it a stipend because local schools districts set the salaries of teachers and they are paid through the district even the stipend.
The state doesn’t cut them a check. I think this is one that has to go before voters in March.
As far as taxes, I would have just unraveled a piece of Stelly and put taxes back on groceries and other recent exemptions. It would make calculating sales taxes easier. Currently you pay just local taxes on groceries, state taxes kick in if the food is considered consumable like hot foods. So that is why you have 2 taxes listed on your receipts. Putting the tax back on groceries would fold those items back into one tax rate.
But to illustrate absurdity, how about a clean penny sales tax idea, 1% sales tax on every sales transaction on every good and service no matter the state of production, except residential real estate. No exemptions.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:36 am to justjoe906
Just Joe:
Louisiana does not tax public pension income: social security, military, state, etc
It does tax private pension income and 401k/IRA withdrawal above $6,000 per person
This bill changes that to $12,000 per person
And also gave a $25,000 standard deduction per person over 65 ($50k a couple) would apply to any extra income (work, investment, xtra pension etc)
True, if you are only on social security then there is no income tax cut and would pay the basically half cent of sales tax, but yes this a noticeable retiree tax cut if you get any other income at all as a retiree!
A retired couple would not owe state income tax on income of $100k or more (social security/govt fully exempt, plus $24k retirement exclusion, plus $50k standard deduction)
fwiw: the Louisiana state sales tax, which is all that was adjusted, does not apply to food, prescription drugs, or utilities.
Louisiana does not tax public pension income: social security, military, state, etc
It does tax private pension income and 401k/IRA withdrawal above $6,000 per person
This bill changes that to $12,000 per person
And also gave a $25,000 standard deduction per person over 65 ($50k a couple) would apply to any extra income (work, investment, xtra pension etc)
True, if you are only on social security then there is no income tax cut and would pay the basically half cent of sales tax, but yes this a noticeable retiree tax cut if you get any other income at all as a retiree!
A retired couple would not owe state income tax on income of $100k or more (social security/govt fully exempt, plus $24k retirement exclusion, plus $50k standard deduction)
fwiw: the Louisiana state sales tax, which is all that was adjusted, does not apply to food, prescription drugs, or utilities.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:51 am to Falco
Falco:
It replaces a stipend with a permanent amount IF voters approve a constitutional amendment on March 29
The rest of the plan goes into effect January 1.
The four parts contingent on constitutional amendment:
1) Authorizing locals to optionally exempt all or part of business inventory property tax in exchange for a one-time payment from the state surplus of 3x annual inventory collections (capped at $15m per parish) plus recurring payments of ~25% of the amount. Trying to buy but not force better local behavior was all that was politically possible.
2) The Dave Ramsey plan on teacher raise. Take $2 billion from a state education trust fund earning 3.3% and pay off teacher pension debt running at 8%.
That allows the local savings on the pension costs to go to required teacher pay raise (replacing the state one-time stipend of $2,000 per year and stopping a fight on how to keep paying for that).
The savings to the state on university employee pension contributions run $10m more than what that fund was earning—so that solves budget impact of lost fund earnings.
3) doubling the standard deduction where u pay no state income tax for persons over 65 to $25k per person ($50k per couple) (social security and govt pension remains fully exempt)
4) Do something called a ‘government growth limit’ on recurring spending to not allow it to go above an inflation factor. This was freedom caucus demand…not bad idea but this one is prob NBD in practice because can avoid w/ 2/3 vote... It’s probably leverage for folks against spending, but time will tell whether it’s a meaningful limit
It replaces a stipend with a permanent amount IF voters approve a constitutional amendment on March 29
The rest of the plan goes into effect January 1.
The four parts contingent on constitutional amendment:
1) Authorizing locals to optionally exempt all or part of business inventory property tax in exchange for a one-time payment from the state surplus of 3x annual inventory collections (capped at $15m per parish) plus recurring payments of ~25% of the amount. Trying to buy but not force better local behavior was all that was politically possible.
2) The Dave Ramsey plan on teacher raise. Take $2 billion from a state education trust fund earning 3.3% and pay off teacher pension debt running at 8%.
That allows the local savings on the pension costs to go to required teacher pay raise (replacing the state one-time stipend of $2,000 per year and stopping a fight on how to keep paying for that).
The savings to the state on university employee pension contributions run $10m more than what that fund was earning—so that solves budget impact of lost fund earnings.
3) doubling the standard deduction where u pay no state income tax for persons over 65 to $25k per person ($50k per couple) (social security and govt pension remains fully exempt)
4) Do something called a ‘government growth limit’ on recurring spending to not allow it to go above an inflation factor. This was freedom caucus demand…not bad idea but this one is prob NBD in practice because can avoid w/ 2/3 vote... It’s probably leverage for folks against spending, but time will tell whether it’s a meaningful limit
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 7:01 am
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:58 am to Tigerpaw123
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“This is the way we grow; this is the way people come here, this is the way people live a more flourishing life,”
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:11 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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East Baton Rouge Parish is 5.5%, now add the state sales tax. It's going to be 10.5%. Outrageous.
It’s a consumption tax. Don’t like it, don’t spend.
Much better than punitive confiscation income taxes. It’s a start in the right direction for Louisiana.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:22 am to MintBerry Crunch
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so they had to raise the revenue somewhere.
Taxes aren’t “revenue”. The government isn’t a business nor is it entitled to money. Taxes are fees forced upon the citizenry.
But some limp-wristed figs realized they couldn’t sell the idea of forced fees so they called it “revenue” to condition the people.
And no, the government doesn’t HAVE to raise taxes. If anything, the government HAS to cut spending.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:36 am to Tigerpaw123
This special session is just a smoke screen to get more money for the state. It will not have any positive impact on getting business to come Louisiana or to stay in Louisiana. The biggest state issues are insurance, tort reform and government. The first step for any positive change, which will never happen, would be to tackle one of these. Example, DOTD is a unless, terrible, do-nothing bunch of clowns. Education, same as DOTD. Office of Juvenile Justice, OMV, State Police, are all a joke. Totally gut and reform all state agencies would be a first good step.
These tax reforms are just going to take more money out of the people’s pockets, and then get wasted by the state.
These tax reforms are just going to take more money out of the people’s pockets, and then get wasted by the state.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:43 am to Jake88
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Louisiana is not really a conservative state.
100%. A large percentage of our GOP isn't even conservative when you consider most of the boomers here voted for Carter, Clinton, Breaux, Edwin Edwards, John Bel, and Landrieu.
Louisiana was actually a "swing state" before the Democrats fully embraced abortion.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:43 am to Tigerpaw123
We are already heavily taxed in Louisiana. Do the right things with the tax money from the start. Take a gander at what Texas has going on with much much much less taxes
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:45 am to Mr Breeze
That's ignorant about this tax cut.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:46 am to Dog Tree
quote:How will it do this?
These tax reforms are just going to take more money out of the people’s pockets, and then get wasted by the state
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:46 am to Dog Tree
Dog Tree:
All your points about reforming state government are correct
It is fair to say that what we get for our taxes in Louisiana needs to dramatically improve
It is objectively not accurate that this will take more tax money overall or more from individuals
It is an overall tax reduction of ~$500 million from where we are today
For individuals: it is a $1.2 billion income tax cut
The extra 0.55 sales tax rate that was put on is $660 million— and some of that is paid by businesses or tourists not LA taxpayers (~ 40%)
For business, even though the rate went down from 7.5 to 5.5 the collections actually slightly go up because they limited or ended a bunch of giveaway programs. Also kept 2% tax on business utilities for $250m.
All your points about reforming state government are correct
It is fair to say that what we get for our taxes in Louisiana needs to dramatically improve
It is objectively not accurate that this will take more tax money overall or more from individuals
It is an overall tax reduction of ~$500 million from where we are today
For individuals: it is a $1.2 billion income tax cut
The extra 0.55 sales tax rate that was put on is $660 million— and some of that is paid by businesses or tourists not LA taxpayers (~ 40%)
For business, even though the rate went down from 7.5 to 5.5 the collections actually slightly go up because they limited or ended a bunch of giveaway programs. Also kept 2% tax on business utilities for $250m.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:49 am to Judg7123
You're doing a good job in this thread trying to explain the benefits to blockheads who are still hung up on a tiger being brought to the LSU game. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if 15% of the voters vote against Landry in 2027 because of the tiger. And until this special session I've ragged Landy for caving to the attorneys.
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