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re: LA Office of Motor Vehicle Money Grab

Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7644 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:43 pm to
OP, I got caught up in their insurance money grab couple years back. I fought and fough and fought them at every step and won.
Took me a little over a year of letters, phone calls and visits to the DMV to get my name cleared. During this time I had my license flagged, registration flagged and my bank account garnished for the amount they said I owed. When all was said and done, I received a check back from the state for the full amount minus something like $38 for admin fees.
This state is unbelievably inept when it comes to their records and the people I had to deal with are mind numingly stupid. Good luck going forward on your case
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11843 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:51 pm to
We are taxed way too much in this state for the product we get.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

owes 4 different payments of $656.25 for the vehicles in his name which "lapsed" in insurance.
I dont understand this.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:11 pm to
A year after I moved out of state, I received a letter from Louisiana Dept of Rev that said I “owed” nearly 4K in back taxes for the previous year. It spent over a year making phone calls and sending multiple certified letters. During which time they managed to lose said letters (even when those on the phone would confirm receipt, but say it just hasn’t been opened yet so I’d have to keep calling back) and then added on more late fines. It reached critical mass when they then sent my debt to a collections agency.

The best part of my happy ending is not only did I not owe them the money. When I redid my taxes again to prove that I didn’t owe them fricking anything, I found an error and the state actually owed me $40+. I happily mailed them that copy and waited for my check.

Congrats, Louisiana. You actually lost money by not having your shite together. I hate every inept person at the LDR
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26829 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:26 pm to
I got popped because of a vehicle awarded to my ex wife, which she refused to take over payments or title. I carried insurance on it as long as I could but because the vehicle was not in my possession, USAA canceled the policy. I sent proof that the vehicle was awarded to her, and the state vacated the title. As far as I know she is still driving around with a vacated title.

She amassed a shite ton of red light camera tickets, speed camera tickets, and toll violations (Texas) and I did the same with those entities too. I fully expect to get a letter one day stating that the vehicle was impounded.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47764 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:32 pm to
I got caught in the money grab also. They asked for about $700 for insurance on a van I had sold 15 years before. I told them I had moved from LA 16 years ago and switched the insurance to FL when I moved. They asked for proof.

My wife had put away all the paperwork so I had proof. They asked me to fax it to them so I did. two weeks later I got the same bill, along with a threat to send to collections. I called, re-faxed, and was told on the phone that it was all straight.

Then collections started mailing me. I called them and told them I had proved twice that I did not owe it. The collections agency was pissed at the state. I faxed all the proof to them and have heard nothing since.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26829 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:36 pm to
Yeah, I faxed my court order every day for a good week until I told them to either stay in the phone with me while they personally receive the fax or I can personally deliver the damn thing the next day. The guy gave me some story about the fax machine not being located nearby so I told him I would hold.

It took me demanding they check the fax machine to get the whole mess cleared up and to get the flags removed.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

I was told on the phone that it was all straight. Then collections started mailing me. I called them and told them I had proved twice that I did not owe it. The collections agency was pissed at the state.


You’re giving me PTSD. I’ve never been more angry in my life.

I started logging times, time waiting, times transferred, names of every worker, and what they told me.

I still couldn’t get an answer for how it was legal for the state to send a “debt” to a collections agency that I didn’t owe. Inept doesn’t begin to describe it

I will say the collections agency was much more responsive and understanding on every call. I imagine it happens a lot
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22352 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:46 pm to
This probably makes it worse for all those of you here who are having to pay those fines. I had a similar situation with my son's car when he "sold" ..donated..it to me for a $100. He was moving out of state & did not want to mess with selling it. Filed all the paper work as described here, subsequently later on got 2 letters demanding payment or else, I was right, had/submitted proof, so I ignored it. No flags on my license, registration, nothing. Finally went to sell it, went down to the DMV to see what I needed & all their records showed owed was $200. This after 5+ yrs. Paid it with a huge smile, got all the proper paper work & hauled arse out of the building. Point being, they really are screwed up on both sides of this issue.
Posted by El Jefe
_______(\___ southeast of disorder
Member since Jan 2004
1246 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:49 pm to
reach out to Karen St. Germain. She is the commissioner. Don't try to deal with behind-the-counter level people.

I don't work for the gov't, but I work with them a bit. I can tell you the higher you go, with a legit complaint, the quicker and more favorable the outcome. Just as soon skip 3 months of climbing the ladder and go straight to the top.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47764 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

I started logging times, time waiting, times transferred, names of every worker, and what they told me.


After all the time spent dealing with their grabby hands, I need to know where I bill them for my time. They knew I was in the right and were obviously instructed to try every dirty trick in the book. Just get that cash is their mantra.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:15 pm to
Lawyer up is your only option.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:47 pm to

Y'all do realize Louisiana is a "one party" recording state. If one party know the call is being recorded it's legal to record phone calls.

Record every single call get names and any other information and take meticulous notes.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69588 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:53 pm to
I sold my vehicle to get scrapped out of state. I didn’t cancel LA plates, just pulled them from the car because I figured ... why did it matter? The car was getting destroyed and it was the first car I was ever getting rid of. I canceled the insurance on it right before they came to pick it up.

How fricked am I?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47764 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:19 pm to
They told me I should have canceled it out of my name when I sold it to an exporter who sent it to Venezuela.

I wonder how much that would have cost me?

Keep in mind, once I sold it they waited 15 years to contact me.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37474 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:20 pm to
Here’s the kicker of that money grab. The DMV didn’t give receipts or any acknowledgment when you turned your plates into them, you would just drop them off. So there was no way to prove if you did or didn’t turn them in. That’s why the ended up having to drop all of those fines they decided to retroactively enforce a few years back.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9393 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:26 pm to
Good luck. Having to deal with the OMV in any form or fashion is maddening. I would rather crawl naked thru broken glass.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69588 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:30 pm to
What did you end up having to pay? Maybe I should contact the DMV tomorrow then?

Or should I gamble and see if they ever come after me? I sold the car in August or Septmeber. No idea how big the fine would be.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74906 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:02 pm to
I sold a car years ago. Get pulled over and the cop says my license is "flagged" and he took it. I owed $800(it was only $400 then) on two plates I didn't turn in. Then had to pay another $100 reinstatement.
fricking sucked.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47764 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

What did you end up having to pay?


Nothing. I could prove I had it insured until I sold it.

quote:

Or should I gamble and see if they ever come after me?


The yare so desperate for more money to steal that they will probably come after you at some point. Keep the records you have of selling it and your insurance proof until the sale. It may also pay you to go make sure the car is cancelled out of your name.

Once your number comes up, they are like pit bulls. They will take your money out of the bank and then you have to fight to get it back. It seems highly illegal but they seem to get away with it.
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