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re: Kiran: Proposed bill would allow teachers to carry concealed weapons on school campuses

Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:19 am to
I see many situations where a big kid in HS overpowers the teacher and has access to a gun
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:26 am to
Once upon a time my brother was the sponsor of the Gun Club at the high school where he taught.

Students would bring their rifles or pistols to club meetings at school. He had access to a firing range where they would go and practice. Never had any problems.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:26 am to
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what if someone knocks her over the head when her back is turned?


Then a person already committed a felony and would laugh at it being a "gun free zone".

I think a lot of my frustration with gun detractors is the fascination with gun free zones being somehow immune to violent individuals bringing guns to said zones. Someone that is already set on committing violence will not give a shite about an added charge.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:29 am to
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What could possibly go wrong?


A lot for those that would like to enter and shoot up schools.

pssttt. Check this out...

This law, it would just decriminalize the teachers that are already carrying firearms today in schools.

Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:35 am to
Every one of you that supports constitutional carry and not this is a huge hypocrite
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:35 am to
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Seems like this should come with extra training or certification maybe.

Lawmakers aren’t gonna care about that since they’ve already rolled back permit requirements.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5881 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:39 am to
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Or in those videos you see where the kids fight the teachers, one of the kids will take the gun and shoot the teacher.


I was thinking when the student attacks a teacher for taking his phone and the teacher kills him in self defense.








Not that their is anything wrong with that
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:41 am to
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decriminalize the teachers that are already carrying firearms today in schools




Ok, pal. Would love for you to put a number/% on teachers who are already packing at school. It's closer to zero than it is 1000, nationwide, if I had to guess.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29501 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:45 am to
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As a teacher, I don’t think it’s a good idea at all. There are about two people on our entire faculty that I would trust to carry at school. You can give most of these women as much training as you want, and most of them are still either going to make a really bad decision with the gun or have it taken away from them by a student in a critical situation.
Well then how about this.

You take an anonymous vote by the teachers as to whom they would trust to carry a gun, not whom you wouldn’t trust. You then interview those people and get them trained.

Problem solved.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20421 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:46 am to
I've thought for years that every school should have at least three or four armed teachers and/or faculty on campus. Give those who volunteer some kind of financial bonus. I'm sure some local police forces or National Guard units would give free weapons courses to those who volunteer two or three times a year to get them certified.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29501 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:52 am to
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I've thought for years that every school should have at least three or four armed teachers and/or faculty on campus. Give those who volunteer some kind of financial bonus. I'm sure some local police forces or National Guard units would give free weapons courses to those who volunteer two or three times a year to get them certified.
No no no, that makes too much sense.

The pussies on here afraid of guns would never approve of it. Just get rid of all guns. That’s their solution.
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
396 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:54 am to
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Well then how about this.

You take an anonymous vote by the teachers as to whom they would trust to carry a gun, not whom you wouldn’t trust. You then interview those people and get them trained.

Problem solved.


Again, that isn't how this works at all. #constitionalcarry
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:54 am to
All for it. End soft targets.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26484 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:56 am to
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Once upon a time my brother was the sponsor of the Gun Club at the high school where he taught.

Students would bring their rifles or pistols to club meetings at school. He had access to a firing range where they would go and practice. Never had any problems.

Yea, that world hasn't existed in decades.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24626 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:58 am to
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I am a teacher and I have a lifetime CCP. I would be willing to go through extensive training by law enforcement to be able to carry my gun in school. I feel that teachers would also need to pass a phycological evaluation as well to be able to carry. In addition, teachers would need to be able to pass certain test and scenarios to make sure they would be able to handle the situation appropriately.




This has been my position as well. I'm all for concealed carry, but teachers deal with a ton of stress along with some pretty shitty people that are students. That stress can create a bad reaction, and the last thing we need is an angry teacher pulling on a bad student.


I also believe not every teacher should be carrying. This is more for strategical purposes. If nobody, especially the students, know which teachers are carrying, it prevents any of the bad ones from pulling a stunt in which they try to get that gun. Also it would create uncertainty in the minds of any attackers when they attack a school. If they know who is carrying, they can either target them first or avoid them.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11884 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:02 pm to
Why should school be different than anywhere else?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6816 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:04 pm to
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feel that teachers would also need to pass a phycological evaluation as well to be able to carry


They should have to do this to teach. It is clear that there are many who wouldn't pass.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21937 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:05 pm to
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also, if a tiny lady teacher is carrying a gun, wouldnt it be very easy for a male to overpower her and steal her gun if he wanted to?
It would also be very easy for said male to get himself shot by a tiny lady teacher in the process of trying to overpower her and steal her weapon.

Ideally the students wouldn't know if a particular teacher was carrying or not because the teachers keep that info to themselves and do a good job of keeping their weapon concealed at all times.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73456 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:06 pm to
The school I coach at already has concealed carry, private school. No issues.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3114 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:09 pm to
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They should have to do this to teach. It is clear that there are many who wouldn't pass.


Anyone who has to try and teach 30 little assholes in a classroom all day has to be mentally tough!

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