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Keep the Curve Flat - Schools Staying Closed and White Collar Jobs Remain as Max Telework
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:07 pm
People are worried about the potential “spread” of COVID19 when states reopen for non essential business but shouldn’t the schools remaining closed and many office type jobs remaining majority telework help mitigate a lot of exposures?
Schools and office buildings have large #s of folks in very tight quarters. Having one person sick with a very contagious disease could potentially spread like wild fire at both of these settings. I can recall on a # of occasions a my school and my place of business being hit hard by the Flu so with both of these 2 scenarios above remaining a lot of the day to day exposures will be limited hopefully keeping the healthcare system from being over run.
Schools and office buildings have large #s of folks in very tight quarters. Having one person sick with a very contagious disease could potentially spread like wild fire at both of these settings. I can recall on a # of occasions a my school and my place of business being hit hard by the Flu so with both of these 2 scenarios above remaining a lot of the day to day exposures will be limited hopefully keeping the healthcare system from being over run.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 3:11 pm
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:08 pm to STEVED00
Thanks
Will revisit tomorrow
Will revisit tomorrow
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:08 pm to STEVED00
Agree. I work for a pretty big company in Nola and I think they are going to tell us to keep working at home through June or July
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:09 pm to STEVED00
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. I can recall on a # of occasions a my school and my place of business being hit hard by the Flu
I had the flu for the first time in my life in Feb. Something like 8 other people in my office had it at the same time so I'm sure that's where I got it, unless I was patient zero.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:11 pm to STEVED00
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but shouldn’t the schools remaining closed and many office type jobs remaining majority telework help mitigate a lot of exposures?
This is the point. People are worried this won’t happen. Specifically the telework situation. Sounds like most businesses are gonna be pushing people back into the office
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:20 pm to fallguy_1978
Many offices now are small cubes or bullpen style with people basically on top of each other. On top of that security has been increased over the years which requires more doors to be opened and closed by hand (person to person transfer). My current office building probable is at less than 5% of its normal capacity and we have given strict order for folks not feeling well to stay away (bc why risk it if you can telework).
Schools are the same general set up. I used to coach youth basketball and the season is right in the middle of Flu season. On a couple of different occasions, games were suspended or postponed bc a very high # of kids from the nearby grammar school got the Flu. Games weren’t postponed out of caution. We literally didn’t have enough kids to field a team.
Schools are the same general set up. I used to coach youth basketball and the season is right in the middle of Flu season. On a couple of different occasions, games were suspended or postponed bc a very high # of kids from the nearby grammar school got the Flu. Games weren’t postponed out of caution. We literally didn’t have enough kids to field a team.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:25 pm to Upperdecker
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This is the point. People are worried this won’t happen. Specifically the telework situation. Sounds like most businesses are gonna be pushing people back into the office
Then Trump or JBE or Abbott, etc should be emphasizing this at their press conferences. Telework might not be ideal for many white collar jobs but it is definitely sustainable for a few more months.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:43 pm to STEVED00
The biggest issue telework related, will be the businesses who never bought into the telework thing until it was forced on them by the pandemic. It is difficult to implement all the IT items / train everyone in a very short time span. It is certainly not as easy as flipping a switch and now everyone is teleworking just as they did at the office. Large business will have it much easier bc most of them have stuff in place already, the SMBs is where it will be tougher. I spoke with one exec who wants something in place just for this "pandemic" bc after it is over they will go back to their no telework world again, once he got the price he just about shi$ his pants.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:57 pm to td1
I get that but keeping the large businesses (who like you said are more equipped to handle) teleworking is most important. Many managers in the situation above have been discouraging max telework prior to this virus and probably for good reason. Those are the folks you need to convince for the next few months to stay the course in order for this to work.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:04 pm to td1
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I spoke with one exec who wants something in place just for this "pandemic" bc after it is over they will go back to their no telework world again, once he got the price he just about shi$ his pants.
Oh come on now. A full VDI setup with additional current-gen cert-based VPN solution for laptops, to include MFA for both of these, can't be all that expensive or hard to set up....
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:05 pm to STEVED00
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Many managers in the situation above have been discouraging max telework prior to this virus and probably for good reason
Usually not for a good reason. The problem is telework requires them to actually manage their subordinates.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:18 pm to Centinel
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Usually not for a good reason. The problem is telework requires them to actually manage their subordinates.
Whatever I’m not trying to argue the pros and cons of telework under normal situations. I’m arguing FOR telework in this abnormal situation.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:23 pm to Centinel
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Many managers in the situation above have been discouraging max telework prior to this virus and probably for good reason
Most of the time, in my experience, the good reason is "if their butts are not in their seats at the office, there is no way anyone is actually doing any work" That is after you weed out the jobs that simply can not be done via telework.
There is a huge mindset difference between SMBs and the large corporate world.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:52 pm to STEVED00
If the schools stay closed until January I’ll be getting fitted for a new tight white jacket and renting a padded room in Jackson
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:58 pm to STEVED00
With most states closings schools for the rest of the Academic year and most offices going to remote work through June, there is no reason not to open all businesses with social distancing now outside of NYC.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 5:04 pm to Centinel
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Oh come on now. A full VDI setup with additional current-gen cert-based VPN solution for laptops, to include MFA for both of these, can't be all that expensive or hard to set up....
It probably isn't if you do it step by step in a planned manner over the course of months, can buy the proper hardware over time, etc. If you call up out of the blue and say "I need this yesterday", I'd imagine the price goes up dramatically.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 5:37 pm to STEVED00
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People are worried about the potential “spread” of COVID19 when states reopen for non essential business but shouldn’t the schools remaining closed and many office type jobs remaining majority telework help mitigate a lot of exposures?
Probably. I just don't see secondary spikes being as high as the initial spike and by and large that didn't exceed capacity.
I also think that even though people like the big church preachers got flack, it probably actually helped to spread things out that early riskers like them and others kind of created a built in staggered opening.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 5:58 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Yeah, my employer had trouble with 2016 flood causing everyone to work from home. It was a fiasco and Cisco raked us over the coals for VPN licensing and the ownership realized the value of getting us set up for just such a telework event when not in times of crisis. Our IT team still was inundated with requests but everyone was able to get set up, the resources were there. Compared to what I saw in 2016 and what my I've seen my wife go through (state employee) transitioning to telework, I'm glad we were set up.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 5:59 pm to STEVED00
My company said to be prepared to work remote until 2021
Posted on 4/19/20 at 6:14 pm to MSTiger33
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It probably isn't if you do it step by step in a planned manner over the course of months, can buy the proper hardware over time, etc. If you call up out of the blue and say "I need this yesterday", I'd imagine the price goes up dramatically.
It has very little bearing on the price. The hardware, software, licenses, etc. costs remain the same. You may get raped a little on the labor, but if you have your own IT dept. not so much. The biggest issue right now is, actually getting in touch with the vendors and the wait times for hardware. We ordered a few extra laptops two weeks ago, they are expected to arrive late May at the earliest. Biggest issue our vendors are having is the supply chain interruption. Most of them run on just in time production. Hard for them to do just in time production when the supply chain breaks down.
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