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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:35 pm to CensoredHumanoid
Posted on 3/19/25 at 7:35 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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hitting the taillight
Holy shite
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 pm to civiltiger07
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Maybe someone hit him over the head
I just finished the last released episode on Max. That is what I am thinking happened.
He pissed someone off. That person attacked him, but didn't mean to kill him.
They did a good enough job of cleaning up everything to not be able to prove without a reasonable doubt. I think those marks on his arm could be from the dog, which was rehomed in may 2022. It was a German Shepard mix.
I think the dog might have thought John was a threat to its owner possibly if things got physical (which I don't think there is evidence of) and attacked him. He was accidently killed and they covered (or attempted to) it all up.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:00 pm to OweO
I cannot believe her lawyers allowed this footage to be filmed and aired right before the 2nd trial. I was, and still am convinced she did not murder him, but she is really coming off class A bitch. I get it, you’re fighting for your life, but damn, show a little empathy for someone other than yourself.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:04 pm to OweO
Replying to an excerpt of a quote: "He [censored] someone off. That person attacked him, but didn't mean to kill him.
Did the attacker use ice skates? It was extremely slippery for any physical activity. And he was a police officer trained for attackers at the police academy. The 6 cups suggest that 6 people were present. That would seem more likely for killing one of America's finest.
Did the attacker use ice skates? It was extremely slippery for any physical activity. And he was a police officer trained for attackers at the police academy. The 6 cups suggest that 6 people were present. That would seem more likely for killing one of America's finest.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:29 pm to civiltiger07
Replying to the quote: "John O’Keefe’s Clothes was apparently wrapped up in butcher paper. You are getting really deep in this stuff."
The first trial didn't disqualify that evidence. I'm allowed to discuss it. You are really hiding a horse saying no car was involved. I'm trying to explain how he fell setting himself up for it. I like geometry.
The first trial didn't disqualify that evidence. I'm allowed to discuss it. You are really hiding a horse saying no car was involved. I'm trying to explain how he fell setting himself up for it. I like geometry.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:40 pm to WinnaSez
Replying to the quote: "I cannot believe her lawyers allowed this footage to be filmed and aired right before the 2nd trial. I was, and still am convinced she did not murder him, but she is really coming off class A bitch. I get it, you’re fighting for your life, but damn, show a little empathy for someone other than yourself."
Lawyers should advise not to discuss ongoing cases. But her lawyers are expensive. And the documentary is helping her pay them. She was saying some incriminating details. Like when Jennifer was on the stand. Karen mentioned that Jennifer and her were the only ones there. That was some very interesting information.
Lawyers should advise not to discuss ongoing cases. But her lawyers are expensive. And the documentary is helping her pay them. She was saying some incriminating details. Like when Jennifer was on the stand. Karen mentioned that Jennifer and her were the only ones there. That was some very interesting information.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:11 pm to civiltiger07
Replying to an excerpt of a quote:"The trauma to the head may have been from falling backwards but it wasn’t from hitting a taillight or vehicle."
He fell forwards, (\) and after hitting his head quickly went backwards.(<_) when he was being wedge he may have banged his head up and down trying to escape the car. Below is an example of someone being ran over. I want to advise that the content is very graphic and should only be viewed with caution and discretion.
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He fell forwards, (\) and after hitting his head quickly went backwards.(<_) when he was being wedge he may have banged his head up and down trying to escape the car. Below is an example of someone being ran over. I want to advise that the content is very graphic and should only be viewed with caution and discretion.
LINK
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:29 pm to morganwadefan
Replying to an excerpt from a quote:"Karen’s taillight was intact the next morning and the tow truck driver stated it was intact when he dropped it off at the police station"
How would a towing company know that? The lights they use are independent. The towing flashers and everything would cover the other vehicle. Plus the lights would need ice scraping just to see the light clearly. It may have still looked intact. But it wasn’t. I seriously doubt if the towing company scrapped off ice to notice a broken light because the towing lights made the car lights unnecessary.
How would a towing company know that? The lights they use are independent. The towing flashers and everything would cover the other vehicle. Plus the lights would need ice scraping just to see the light clearly. It may have still looked intact. But it wasn’t. I seriously doubt if the towing company scrapped off ice to notice a broken light because the towing lights made the car lights unnecessary.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:17 am to CensoredHumanoid
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You are really hiding a horse saying no car was involved. I'm trying to explain how he fell setting himself up for it.
I’m saying based on the physics of a possible pedestrian strike Officer John O’Keefe was not hit by a vehicle. If he was hit by a vehicle he would have bruises and most likely broken bones at the point of impact. Especially if the car was going 24mph as the CW alleged in the 1st trial.
Also, if Officer John O’Keefe was only hit in the arm it wouldn’t have propelled him away from the vehicle. The CW crash reconstruction “expert” testified that John was thrown 30ft. Not even close to being possible.
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I like geometry.
Cool but geometry doesn’t have much to do with the pedestrian strike. Dynamics and the conservation of momentum has everything to do with a possible pedestrian strike.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:50 am to civiltiger07
What time does the trial start today?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:55 am to OweO
I think 9am, but Karen does have some other hearing before the motion hearing.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:18 am to CensoredHumanoid
quote:No car was involved.
You are really hiding a horse saying no car was involved
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:42 am to WinnaSez
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I cannot believe her lawyers allowed this footage to be filmed and aired right before the 2nd trial. I was, and still am convinced she did not murder him, but she is really coming off class A bitch. I get it, you’re fighting for your life, but damn, show a little empathy for someone other than yourself.
100% agree. I'm only halfway though. I somewhat get what the goal was with the documentary, but there's no way that they watched that documentary and thought that it paints Karen Read as a super likable person.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:59 am to LSBoosie
Hank Brennan is such a slimy POS.
Dude commented that he didn't know something, but maybe the CW knew about it. Hey moron you have been paid somewhere around $250,000 by the CW. You are the Commonwealth you overpaid loser.
Dude commented that he didn't know something, but maybe the CW knew about it. Hey moron you have been paid somewhere around $250,000 by the CW. You are the Commonwealth you overpaid loser.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:57 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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The towing flashers and everything would cover the other vehicle.
No. Nothing covered the rear of her car. It was on a roll back and the driver said he did a walk around before and after.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:15 pm to morganwadefan
Reply to the quote:"No. Nothing covered the rear of her car. It was on a roll back and the driver said he did a walk around before and after."
A driver should have seen a pedestrian with lights working. I don't think John was seen. I think the taillight was inoperable. (Based on autopsy evidence.)
A driver should have seen a pedestrian with lights working. I don't think John was seen. I think the taillight was inoperable. (Based on autopsy evidence.)
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:23 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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A driver should have seen a pedestrian with lights working. I don't think John was seen. I think the taillight was inoperable. (Based on autopsy evidence.)
The taillight was shown intact and fully operational the next morning when Karen was making the 3 pt turn in the driveway. There is no autopsy evidence that stated John was hit by a car. There was actually zero bruising on the parts of his body that the Commonwealth tried to say was struck by her vehicle.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:27 pm to civiltiger07
Replying to an excerpt of a quote:"I’m saying based on the physics of a possible pedestrian strike Officer John O’Keefe was not hit by a vehicle."
His eyelids show me that he hit the taillight. He was not attacked. The snow and ice would have helped an attacked eye. But being next to a tail pipe infected them. On the documentary when Alan Jackson was presented photos. His first reaction was that it was a car. (They showed the arm.) What courtroom politics changed his mind? In physics you have a tampered conclusion throwing off the original arithmetic. I don't believe the body just landed where it was found. I believe it was relocated for unknown reasons. (First aid barricading or God forbid something more negligent.)
His eyelids show me that he hit the taillight. He was not attacked. The snow and ice would have helped an attacked eye. But being next to a tail pipe infected them. On the documentary when Alan Jackson was presented photos. His first reaction was that it was a car. (They showed the arm.) What courtroom politics changed his mind? In physics you have a tampered conclusion throwing off the original arithmetic. I don't believe the body just landed where it was found. I believe it was relocated for unknown reasons. (First aid barricading or God forbid something more negligent.)
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:38 pm to morganwadefan
Replying to an excerpt from a quote:"There was actually zero bruising on the parts of his body that the Commonwealth tried to say was struck by her vehicle."
There was plenty of bruises on his body. The photos are available to the public. I can show you hundreds of other people also ran over similarly. But the state has not proven guilt. There is no evidence her tires did that to him. Just because he may have hit her light, doesn't mean her tires did that.
There was plenty of bruises on his body. The photos are available to the public. I can show you hundreds of other people also ran over similarly. But the state has not proven guilt. There is no evidence her tires did that to him. Just because he may have hit her light, doesn't mean her tires did that.
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