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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:18 pm to CensoredHumanoid
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:18 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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How did John's blood end up in those plastic cups?
The cops got some cups from a neighbor and and scoped up the blood then put the cups in the paper bag.
Your comments are all over the place. It's very hard to follow.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:21 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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I believe Jennifer was stuck in the parking lot and texted John to move his car out of her way.
WTF? John didn't have a vehicle at the house.
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When she asked where he was, that reminded me of a lot of parking maneuvers I have done unrelated to the case. When I loose sight I will stop and ask the spotter where he is. John as an officer also may have done traffic control. Part of his job would include to direct traffic when lights went out. If John was hit in the parking lot, vehicles would still need to be moved.
Why are you talking about a parking lot and directing traffic?
John O'Keefe was NOT hit by a vehicle.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:26 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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CensoredHumanoid
I am again begging you to stop posting.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:29 pm to civiltiger07
His DNA is on the tail light. He was multitasking and being rushed to his car on slippery ice. His hands were full so he couldn't just reach for the top of the trunk.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:31 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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His DNA is on the tail light.
touch DNA was found on the car, which it is in no way surprising that his touch DNA was found on his girlfriends vehicle.
I think it's about time for this poster to be banned.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:32 pm to CensoredHumanoid
If you are a real person reply with a quote this post.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:34 pm to civiltiger07
You can ban me. Everyone in the case is withholding information. But you can still read through people. Karen stated that she waited for 20 minutes for him to come out of the house. She wasn't lying. (Just not telling everything.)
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:35 pm to civiltiger07
I'm censored just like my name implies. I'm about to be banned.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:51 pm to civiltiger07
The car DNA was on his clothes. Was the party that freaky? Because that car slid on his pants pretty tight.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:27 pm to civiltiger07
Emily Baker saying she think there's a good chance that this case gets continued unfortunately
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:33 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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That trooper was the best detective working on the case. There is a 90 percent chance that the pork found on John's arm was ethanol. So he was behind a car. The people in the house are not saying what happened in the house. Maybe they don't want juicy love shack orgies making the news. I don't know. But whatever they are hiding had nothing to do with the accident. The trooper did not plant any evidence. Whoever was at the scene must have moved evidence when applying first aid. I believe it all happened in the small parking lot with many cars crowding it and trying to move around in it. The times given for the after party were kind of late to be having a party. Who starts a party at 3am?
Wow! Did you not listen to the trial every day and just get your info from Court TV or Jennifer Coffindaffer? I think you are way off on several of your points. Karen’s taillight was intact the next morning and the tow truck driver stated it was intact when he dropped it off at the police station. Days later 57 taillight pieces are found on Albert’s lawn but none were found at the scene of Proctor’s investigation.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:55 pm to civiltiger07
Well the vehicle was hit by him. It is all over his clothes. The car was under surveillance. You can't just shatter a light on surveillance and carry over 50 pieces in your pocket like the exotic defense is suggesting.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:58 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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You can't just shatter a light on surveillance and carry over 50 pieces in your pocket like the frivolous defense is suggesting.
You can absolutely shatter the taillight, and it was likely done on surveillance. (probably why Proctor asked for all the sally port video and keep it under wraps for 2 years)
Also they didn't carry all the taillight pieces to 34 Fairview at one time. They found taillight pieces for a week. Found a few this day then some more another day then more anther day.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:59 pm to civiltiger07
Replying to :"The cops got some cups from a neighbor and and scoped up the blood then put the cups in the paper bag."
What would be the incentive of that? Detective Protor would not do that to his affiliates. They were all just drunk moving John's body after an accident. All 6 of them.
What would be the incentive of that? Detective Protor would not do that to his affiliates. They were all just drunk moving John's body after an accident. All 6 of them.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:16 pm to civiltiger07
Replying to a excerpt of a quote: "You can absolutely shatter the taillight, and it was likely done on surveillance."
I didn't see anything like that on surveillance. He was just walking behind the car looking at the damage. Nothing was in his hands afterwards. He would have needed a pitching arm motion just for the break. And it wasn't in his hands, so he would have had to catch all 50 pieces mid air before landing and place it in his pocket. All while keeping a straight face. The jurors can review anything they want. Maybe they can zoom in better.
I didn't see anything like that on surveillance. He was just walking behind the car looking at the damage. Nothing was in his hands afterwards. He would have needed a pitching arm motion just for the break. And it wasn't in his hands, so he would have had to catch all 50 pieces mid air before landing and place it in his pocket. All while keeping a straight face. The jurors can review anything they want. Maybe they can zoom in better.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:53 pm to AlxTgr
It is my opinion the the blunt forced trauma was caused by a fall and hitting the taillight. Afterwards some car or cars wedged him as he was attempting to get up. Some of that hypothermia may have been mistaken for carbon monoxide. If he was laying by a tail pipe he would have inhaled significant amounts. But ethanol can also be in alcohol. And it also contains pork that would have been found on his arms. His cellphone behind his back shows me he was using it. And you can see his very last texts. It was like his last living words. The timeline would suggest he was knocked unconscious at around 12:40. I don't think he had his phone out for his girlfriend angry at him. So that 2:00 thing is possibly a made up time. All 6 of the other people appear to be withholding information to save their own possible incriminations.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 4:58 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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Some of that hypothermia may have been mistaken for carbon monoxide. If he was laying by a tail pipe he would have inhaled significant amounts. But ethanol can also be in alcohol. And it also contains pork that would have been found on his arms
Posted on 3/19/25 at 5:11 pm to SuperSaint
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The evidence keeps hinting at a car. Pork is in ethanol gasoline. And people have started a car with whiskey. He didn't get pork on his arm from a dog treat. If a dog treat shows up in a lab, so should his saliva.
The evidence keeps hinting at a car. Pork is in ethanol gasoline. And people have started a car with whiskey. He didn't get pork on his arm from a dog treat. If a dog treat shows up in a lab, so should his saliva.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:54 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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It is my opinion the the blunt forced trauma was caused by a fall and hitting the taillight.
The trauma to the head may have been from falling backwards but it wasn’t from hitting a taillight or vehicle.
OJO was beat up. Maybe someone hit him over the head or he fell backwards and hit his head on something.
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Afterwards some car or cars wedged him as he was attempting to get up.
Wwwwhaaaat?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 6:56 pm to CensoredHumanoid
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The evidence keeps hinting at a car. Pork is in ethanol gasoline. And people have started a car with whiskey. He didn't get pork on his arm from a dog treat. If a dog treat shows up in a lab, so should his saliva.
John O’Keefe’s Clothes was apparently wrapped up in butcher paper. You are getting really deep in this stuff.
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