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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:35 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:35 pm to KosmoCramer
19 hours, 15 minutes. They likely just finished lunch, and the court staff is off lunch.
It's time for some action. They really can't go to 4pm and just break for 4 days without something going on the record.
It's time for some action. They really can't go to 4pm and just break for 4 days without something going on the record.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:35 pm to civiltiger07
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My guess is JOK either wanted a piece of the action or he was going to reveal everything or he was get close to uncovering something and would not go away - so they killed him and tried to frame his unstable girlfriend.
IMO you are way off. Higgins wanted to get with Karen and John was the road block to do that. Something happened in the house and things went a bit to far, then they freaked out and decided to cover it up. I do not think for one second that anyone intended to kill John.
JOK had already had a run in with the psychotic nephew of Brian Albert - A case of the nephew "Do you know who I am" BS.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:49 pm to KosmoCramer
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They really can't go to 4pm and just break for 4 days without something going on the record.
Why is court closed on Friday?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:54 pm to Gris Gris
I haven't seen it officially confirmed or stated that is. The reason why it could be, is that the judge may have identified that day as a day off during jury selection. It would give the jury some freedom to schedule doctors appointments out of town, or various other things. Basically a courtesy to the jury for a long weekend. If she did that, she could still compel them to come in. But she's not the type to do that.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:07 pm to 10tiger
In most cases, a civil suit is all about money. This one may not be as it pertains to KR. No insurers were sued, but it appears Mass. may be direct action only for bad faith. The suit alleges both negligent and intentional acts, so her insurer may seek to avoid coverage. if they don't, they will likely want to settle if her limits are $100k or lower. they aren't going to do that without a release of Karen.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:11 pm to KosmoCramer
everyone being called back to the courthouse. no update on why.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:16 pm to TheVig10
Karen just walked in
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:18 pm to AlxTgr
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No insurers were sued, but it appears Mass. may be direct action only for bad faith.
M.G.L. c. 229, s. 2 allows families to sue individuals directly for wrongful acts causing death, seeking compensatory and punitive damages.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:20 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Was commenting on the lack of insurers in the suit. From my reading, mass is only a direct action state for bad faith.
No insurers were sued, but it appears Mass. may be direct action only for bad faith.
M.G.L. c. 229, s. 2 allows families to sue individuals directly for wrongful acts causing death, seeking compensatory and punitive damages.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:24 pm to AlxTgr
Got it.
Yes, according to Grok, Direct actions against insurers in Massachusetts under M.G.L. c. 93A and c. 176D require evidence of unfair or deceptive practices, such as refusing to settle within policy limits or delaying claim processing, aka bad faith.
Yes, according to Grok, Direct actions against insurers in Massachusetts under M.G.L. c. 93A and c. 176D require evidence of unfair or deceptive practices, such as refusing to settle within policy limits or delaying claim processing, aka bad faith.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:25 pm to KosmoCramer
It's go time!
Maybe...
Maybe...
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:26 pm to KosmoCramer
Bev discussing what just happened. "We have a verdict...no wait, we do not have a verdict".
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:26 pm to TigerBait1971
Holy shite, jury said they had a verdict, but came back later and said they didn't.
This is unreal.
This is unreal.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:27 pm to KosmoCramer
Jury: here is our verdict
Also Jury: psyche
Also Jury: psyche
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:27 pm to TigerBait1971
So they had a verdict and then decided not to go forward with it and return to deliberations?
That verdict will be under seal
That verdict will be under seal
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:27 pm to KosmoCramer
For fricks sake!
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:28 pm to IT_Dawg
This shite just gets more wild
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:31 pm to IT_Dawg
This is crazy. If they didn't have a verdict, then why the sealed envelope?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:31 pm to IT_Dawg
Lawyer on YouYube saying Cannone fricked up by not getting the foreman on the record of the accuracy of what the bailiff said. Because this information, WILL be used in appeal. It's sealed now, but will be shown to the parties after the trial concludes.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:32 pm to IT_Dawg
This is nuts. Verdict sheet just chilling in a folder in the courthouse while the jury decides to charge her with DUI
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