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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:55 am to go ta hell ole miss
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:55 am to go ta hell ole miss
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They can use those experts again, and refine their opinions, so it will not cost nearly as much for a third trial.
They paid Aperture AT LEAST $369,000 for one to falsify his CV, and the other to be an absolute hack "scientist".
They won't use them again
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to KosmoCramer
Here is a baseline of time from the first trial. We are at 18 hours in trial 2:
In the first Karen Read trial, the jury first indicated they were deadlocked on June 28, 2024, in a note sent to Judge Beverly Cannone after about 20 hours of deliberation over four days. They stated they were "deeply divided" and unable to reach a unanimous verdict despite exhaustive efforts. The judge instructed them to continue deliberating with a Tuey-Rodriguez instruction, but they remained deadlocked, leading to a mistrial declared on July 1, 2024.
In the first Karen Read trial, the jury first indicated they were deadlocked on June 28, 2024, in a note sent to Judge Beverly Cannone after about 20 hours of deliberation over four days. They stated they were "deeply divided" and unable to reach a unanimous verdict despite exhaustive efforts. The judge instructed them to continue deliberating with a Tuey-Rodriguez instruction, but they remained deadlocked, leading to a mistrial declared on July 1, 2024.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to go ta hell ole miss
quote:If they want to continue, they may outlast Karen in that department, but nobody has an unlimited budget.
The DA pretty much has an unlimited budget.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:04 am to Tigers4Lyfe
Her go fund me has her covered and I think some of her lawyers are pro bono? Is that right or did I dream that?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:05 am to KosmoCramer
Yeah, but they had already marked not guilty on 2 of those charges.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:16 am to LSUGrrrl
Have we heard anything from court today?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:29 am to LSUGrrrl
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Yeah, but they had already marked not guilty on 2 of those charges.
Are you talking about trial 1? Not officially they didn't.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:36 am to go ta hell ole miss
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The commonwealth is not going to walk away from that IMO. They’ve already paid experts at least half a million. They can use those experts again, and refine their opinions, so it will not cost nearly as much for a third trial.
There’s no way in hell they use Aperture again after this trial. However, I would pay good money for tickets to see them try.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:37 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:The gofundme has covered bringing in witnesses and stuff like that but yeah, Allan Jackson and her other lawyers have all decided to not take a penny because they can't stand there and let an innocent woman burn.
Her go fund me has her covered and I think some of her lawyers are pro bono? Is that right or did I dream that?
They may have a deal in place for when the money from book & tv deals start rolling in they'll get something from it.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:43 am to LSUGrrrl
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:46 am to civiltiger07
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Dakota Johnson
That's a good one.
I will throw in Jessica Biel.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:49 am to KosmoCramer
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Are you talking about trial 1? Not officially they didn't.
I could be wrong, but I think it was said yesterday that the jury was hung up on the 5th option and had voted NG for the first two...
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:55 am to OweO
You are wrong.
They asked a hypothetical, "If we find not guilty on two charges but can't agree on one charge, is it a hung jury on all three charges or just one charge?"
Nothing has officially happened in this trial regarding verdict, and nothing official happened in trial one regarding any verdicts aside from a mistrial without prejudice due to a hung jury.
They asked a hypothetical, "If we find not guilty on two charges but can't agree on one charge, is it a hung jury on all three charges or just one charge?"
Nothing has officially happened in this trial regarding verdict, and nothing official happened in trial one regarding any verdicts aside from a mistrial without prejudice due to a hung jury.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:59 am to KosmoCramer
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They asked a hypothetical
I see.
I just saw this on the youtube page I go to to watch the trial.
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Just a note we learned today that the jury can deliberate through lunch but since court staff is on lunch no announcement will be made from 12:30 - 1:30. We will keep the clock running during lunch!
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:03 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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They may have a deal in place for when the money from book & tv deals start rolling in they'll get something from it.
I hope so. I hope her team gets square for their time invested. If she’s found NG I’m sure family will file a wrongful death suit which is civil and a little easier to prove so future income may be tied to that…but I hope her and her team make a billion dollars lol
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:08 pm to JDPndahizzy
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If she’s found NG I’m sure family will file a wrongful death suit which is civil
The family has already filed a civil action against Karen Read, and Canton bars C.F. McCarthy's and the Waterfall. It is currently stayed awaiting the conclusion of the criminal proceedings.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:it’s common for defense attorneys to take very high profile cases pro bono because the exposure more than makes up for it
Allan Jackson and her other lawyers have all decided to not take a penny because they can't stand there and let an innocent woman burn.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:20 pm to uscpuke
What are your odds of winning a civil case (as a plaintiff) when a person has been found NG of criminal? I’m thinking OJ as the example of losing civil while winning criminal
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:23 pm to uscpuke
This is often true, but a third trial would potentially be tough to justify doing. He's been on this case for over 3 years.
That said, he is a partner at an LA firm so they all may be reaping the benefits from the noteriety, and he may not need to be actually practicing as much.
That said, he is a partner at an LA firm so they all may be reaping the benefits from the noteriety, and he may not need to be actually practicing as much.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:33 pm to 10tiger
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What are your odds of winning a civil case (as a plaintiff) when a person has been found NG of criminal? I’m thinking OJ as the example of losing civil while winning criminal
This is uncommon for several reasons. One being the obvious that there may not be enough evidence to be found liable even at the civil standard. But not speaking about facts of any case, relatively VERY few cases even go to trial. In Massachusetts in 2019, 4.42% of cases went to trial. Conviction rates are roughly 75%?
So based on that, about 1% of all criminal cases have a finding of not guilty. Of that 1%, it's uncommon for a civil court to find liability for the alleged underlying criminal action.
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