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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:53 pm to
No shite I didn’t know they tossed that in too No witnesses either until hours later. Why didn’t the cop arrested her on scene?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:01 pm to
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No shite I didn’t know they tossed that in too


The defense got the DUI charge added not the prosecution
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:03 pm to
All I know is I’m going to need a hobby once this shite is over. Got way more invested than I thought
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:34 pm to
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The defense got the DUI charge added not the prosecution


Wut? What would the reasoning be behind that? So they convict her on something minor?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:39 pm to
Bryan Kohberger’s Idaho college murders trial will be live steamed in August. I’m clearing my calendar car for that whole month. Will get me through until LSU football.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:46 pm to
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So they convict her on something minor?


that is probably it. Based on commentary from jurors in the first trial they were hung up on the 2nd charge that included the OUI.

They could be thinking that if they got hung on that because someone wants to convict her of something there is a stand alone OUI charge that is a misdemeanor, and she is able to whip her hands of this shame to move on with her life.

Based on listening to some lawyers speaking about how this works this decision had to come from Karen.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:03 pm to
well its 4pm their time... Will they shut down at 5?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:11 pm to
Not a fan of horse trading because you might not like her. Seems counterproductive to me if your quest is the truth.
Posted by Veritas
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:24 pm to
Jury going home
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50987 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:35 pm to
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Bryan Kohberger’s Idaho college murders trial will be live steamed in August. I’m clearing my calendar car for that whole month. Will get me through until LSU football.
Yeh, I will be watching this one as much as I can. That is a strange case and I want to see/hear the proof.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10264 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:49 pm to
Court TV is addicting. You can't believe what you are watching and then it just gets better.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Yeh, I will be watching this one as much as I can. That is a strange case and I want to see/hear the proof.


They got proof beyond belief. I’m gonna be tuned in cause it will likely be a prosecution slaughter where the defense puts up so much absurd shite, it’s gonna be crazy.

I am hopeful we get down to the true motive behind all of it. Not speculation like what’s out there, but true motive.

Like, did the dude just watch “A perfect Murder” and thought he could pull that shite off with completely random people? Why would he turn his cell phone off and on like that, giving more evidence that he was fricking around at 3am.


Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8507 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
I'll be keeping an eye on that one too, mainly because I'm interested in how stupid he seemed to be, considering he was a PhD Criminology major he certainly made a ton of missteps. Turning his phone off/on, his car on camera numerous times in the area, getting spotted by the roommates, leaving behind the sheath, etc etc.

The other question I want to know is there was profiles on reddit and Facebook groups posting details of the crime that no one knew, that vanished upon his arrest and it was always rumored he was posting details online. I want to know if he really was that stupid, I hope they go over that.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 4:18 pm to
That was one of my favorite threads on this board. Going to be a great trial to watch
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:01 pm to
I was listening to a live stream about this trial earlier. They asked a great question. What was in John’s right hand? Was it a glass or a cell phone?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122173 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:05 pm to


This is when KR got to look at the verdict sheet.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4073 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:12 pm to
The verdict sheet looks confusing but it actually follows MA law. In MA, if there are lesser included charges (as we have here), the jury can only find guilty of a specific count or the lesser included charge therein, of not guilty of the main count and all lesser included charges. They are not allowed to say she is not guilty of the main charge in count two and then hang on a lesser included. That situation os where the verdict form would be lacking, but since they cannot legally do that, the form is fine.

The info about MA law came from Andrea Burkhart on YouTube.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97012 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:29 am to
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What was in John’s right hand? Was it a glass or a cell phone?


Did he have any cuts or abrasions on the inner hand?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16385 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:32 am to
I'm not super smart, but I read this and I'm still thoroughly confused. I hope the jury is smarter than I am!
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 7:36 am to
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Did he have any cuts or abrasions on the inner hand?


no
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