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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:09 pm to
Guilty
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:16 pm to
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Random aside: Is KR on any bond conditions? Or can she just get blitzed out of her mind this weekend with no recourse?


It's unknown publically if she has any alcohol restrictions.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:21 pm to
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At what point does it become malicious prosecution?

How many bites at the apple do they get?

If you fail twice to get a verdict, perhaps you have a shitty case and need to drop it, no?


There's no maximum retrials in Massachusetts as long as it's dismissed without prejudice. I highly doubt Bev dismisses with prejudice if it's another hung jury.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:26 pm to
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This approach didn't work out very well last time she did that.


Well she did not hit OJO with the car.

Why do you keep sweeping for the corrupt CW and Hank? lmao.
Posted by Lowdermilk
Lowdermilk Beach
Member since Aug 2024
1139 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:29 pm to
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Guilty


Guilty of probably being a real count ...especially when drunk, but that doesn't mean she killed anyone.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10264 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:36 pm to
How would she know? To drunk to know what she did .
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:38 pm to
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MBclass83


Get lost troll. You are adding nothing to this thread with your retarded gotcha attempts.

You are dumber than Hank and Bev.

We get it, you hate Karen and aren't interested in justice or the truth of what actually happened that night.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Lowdermilk
Lowdermilk Beach
Member since Aug 2024
1139 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:40 pm to
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How would she know? To drunk to know what she did .


I must have missed something (probably did). How can they convict her of DWI when all they have are video of her consuming "drinks" (which we don't even know contained alcohol) at the bar?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87397 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:36 pm to
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How would she know? To drunk to know what she did .
Do you have a disability you're not disclosing?
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:58 pm to
I feel the same way about the DUI charge … from what I understand the only lab draw was when she was at the ED for psych hold and I don’t think the blood alcohol was high enough to be considered drunk if I recall correctly. Can you be charged on statement alone?
Posted by tigersof2013
Member since Oct 2017
44 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:45 pm to
What are y’all’s thoughts on her guilt after watching everything? Not in the eyes of the law but just in general
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:04 pm to
She is innocent
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:10 pm to
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What are y’all’s thoughts on her guilt after watching everything? Not in the eyes of the law but just in general


I'm not sure what happened that night.

But it definitely didn't happen like the CW presented. He wasn't struck by a vehicle, there's no evidence of it.

The phone location data is interesting when John was on Waze, but when he closed that, it gets more broad. I do believe he went in the house that night, but there's no evidence of that either.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26703 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:13 pm to
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She is innocent


She should be found not guilty, based on the CW’s BS and the great defense….


I’m still not convinced what happened that night and if she’s “innocent”
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15075 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:19 pm to
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I’m still not convinced what happened that night and if she’s “innocent”


What keeps you from ruling out the Karen Read had anything to do with it?
Posted by RPC4LSU
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Jan 2006
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:25 pm to
She is innocent for 3 reasons
- Last time JO used his phone was 12:32 and she connected to the wifi at his house at 12:36
- Not one expert could prove he was as hit by a vehicle
- No blood, fiber, skin, DNA, etc found on the taillight fragments because it was planted by Proctor.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:49 pm to
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She is innocent for 3 reasons - Last time JO used his phone was 12:32 and she connected to the wifi at his house at 12:36 - Not one expert could prove he was as hit by a vehicle - No blood, fiber, skin, DNA, etc found on the taillight fragments because it was planted by Proctor.


I agree with this. The only thing the CW brought up that gives me pause is how the cell phone stopped moving at 12:34 (or whenever) and didn’t show movement again until they “found” him at 6am. If they moved him to the lawn after Lucky made his pass how did the phone not show movement?

I think it’s total bullshite she was even prosecuted, and I think the defense did a great job creating reasonable doubt. This is the only piece of the puzzle that doesn’t fit.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26703 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:56 pm to
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What keeps you from ruling out the Karen Read had anything to do with it?


Like I said, she should be found not guilty, therefore innocent in legal eyes.


For me, I’m not convinced she didn’t have a part in it. CW didn’t prove shite, but also, I don’t think the defense proved she didn’t do it (which isn’t their burden)…but proved just that there is clear reasonable doubt.

Posted by RPC4LSU
Thibodaux, LA
Member since Jan 2006
2059 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 8:57 pm to
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the cell phone stopped CV moving at 12:34 (or whenever) and didn’t show movement again until they “found” him at 6am.

Last interaction on the phone was approximately 12:32, not movement. Don’t think the phone tracks movement when it’s “off”.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 9:08 pm to
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but also, I don’t think the defense proved she didn’t do it 


Honest question, excluding the mountain of suspicious shite with the investigation, how does his arm shatter a taillight and diffusers and not have ANY fractures or bruising?
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 9:09 pm
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