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Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:09 pm to brass2mouth
Nothing rational about defending these cameras. You can frick right off. I bet you're baffled why respect for police continues to erode away
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:52 pm to brass2mouth
Have you requested a Flock camera be installed beside your driveway?
Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:56 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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my understanding that if you’re in a public space, you forfeit all expectations of privacy
If that's the case expect to hand over all movements, your cell phone data, Bluetooth data, who you call, a heat map of your likely movements, where you get the kids from school, where you work, your address, phone number, and images of your entire person and car that are searchable across the country- no license plate or car required, with no crime or warrant required. Freedom!
These are just some of the things ALPR picks up btw.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:58 pm to midwestTiger20
There is no expectation of privacy in public.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:58 pm to midwestTiger20
Google and Apple are recording to your sex and will sell it to the Chinese, who will sell it back to you.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 6:59 pm to Philzilla2k
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There is no expectation of privacy in public.
If that's the case your cellphone wouldn't need a warrant, nor would geofencing when police look up your location data on Google.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 7/31/26 at 7:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
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If that's the case your cellphone wouldn't need a warrant, nor would geofencing when police look up your location data on Google.
Not the same thing.
If you are in public, or can be viewed in public I can record you.
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Generally, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces for things that are in plain view or easily heard by others.
General Rules in Public Spaces
Plain View: Anything you do, wear, or say openly in a park, street, or store can be seen or heard by other people and police.
Photography and Recording: Bystanders and law enforcement generally have the legal right to photograph or video record anything in plain sight in a public area.
Exceptions for Private Areas: Enclosed spaces within public venues—such as public restroom stalls or changing rooms—do carry a legal expectation of privacy.
Good luck though.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 7:28 pm to brass2mouth
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I’m confused.
That's clear
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You’re ok with the government tracking you when you’re walking around your neighborhood, but not when you’re driving?
Not ok with it at all without cause. We can use cameras for protection without taking the giant leap to tracking everyone at all times, and without making that data searchable without a warrant.
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What case are you referring to? Carpenter? Because that pertains to cell phones.
Not you driving on a public road.
There are several cases but yes that is the main one. It pertains to cell phones because that was essentially the only way to track everyone all the time. Now we have a new way to do that. Are you being obtuse intentionally?
Posted on 7/31/26 at 8:13 pm to Korkstand
Can anyone pull how many good uses vs bad uses there are. You see every once in a while a rogue person does something but I’m willing to bet that 10000:1 there are more good uses than bad. So why all the uproar
Posted on 7/31/26 at 8:41 pm to Philzilla2k
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Not the same thing.
So why would police need a warrant to track your every move by geofencing (Chatrie) but not one to track your every move via Flock cameras and ALPR? FLOCK does way more than read your license plate and take a photo of your car btw.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:05 pm to Philzilla2k
quote:It is against the law to be stalked. A nationwide network of Flock cameras storing and sharing data is the violation. With this technology, anyone with access can enter a license plate number and track your every move.
There is no expectation of privacy in public.
Contrast that with a normal security camera at a gas station or retail store. You can only go back and review footage for certain timeframes, it doesn't store every single person's identity and all of their activity in a database, that can be queried by anyone with access, for any reason.
Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:29 pm to Philzilla2k
True. But we have the right to not be stalked and every move recorded. Those ring doorbell cameras are bad enough and shouldn’t exist.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 3:41 pm to Philzilla2k
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There is no expectation of privacy in public.
Also no expectation of living in a surveillance state.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 3:46 pm to midwestTiger20
quote:How long to the point of know return?
Kansas man is fighting ALPR cameras in Wichita court
Suing under the state constitution, not the fourth amendment.
All we are is dust in the wind.
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