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re: Just back from 8 days in Havana, Cuba

Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:11 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:11 am to
quote:

every meal started with a Mohito


Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:12 am to
Sounds like they set up a Potemkin village for the tourist?
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:12 am to
Am I supposed to feel guilty for wanting to visit Cuba because some Cubans tortured Americans in the 60's?
Posted by TGFN57
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:13 am to
You are correct it is not your responsibility to educate me. Now when you post a claim with no link to back it up and then make no attempt to address that then it is simply another internet lie
Posted by Isabelle81
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:15 am to
Lsupimp, did you think there is no internet in Cuba?
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:16 am to
Was wondering why a thread title like this with no pics in the op went this far

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do t really care about the government being communist. Wouldn't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of a city as beautiful as Havana. That communist government takes better care of its people better than our government ever will.


Holy shite.

I hope this is a troll. I have some Cuban friends living in Miami that would love to tell you how their families were treated in Cuba. I mean really peachy stuff. Makes the US look like the Congo.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Am I supposed to feel guilty for wanting to visit Cuba because some Cubans tortured Americans in the 60's?


Hell no. By all means, visit. I'll get there eventually, God willing. Just don't come back here and say things like:

quote:

I do t really care about the government being communist. Wouldn't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of a city as beautiful as Havana. That communist government takes better care of its people better than our government ever will.




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Lou, there certainly were a few Cubans I spoke to who wanted to know about the "American Dream". They think it really exists and that everything will be wonderful once they are in the U.S. The American Dream is the U.S.'s facade


We aren't challenging tourism to Cuba. We are challenging her white-washing of the sad history of Cuban Communism.
Posted by Isabelle81
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:18 am to
TrueTiger, we were able to go anywhere we wanted to, unescorted. No one was required to stay with the tour, we weren't held hostage.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:20 am to
I want to go!
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:31 am to
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Lsupimp, did you think there is no internet in Cuba?


Of course there is internet in Cuba.And like everything else in Cuba it is greatly restricted by The State.

Do you think there is political repression in Cuba, Isabella ?
Do you think Cuban Communism is superior to Constitutional Republicanism?
Do you feel a little queasy about supporting a totalitarian system that enslaved millions?
Do you feel any moral culpability about glossing over the deaths of thousands because you enjoyed a sunny vacation?
Do you feel any responsibility to educate yourself about a totalitarian ideology that killed 100,000,000 in the 20th Century?
Would you rather your children spent the last 50 years in Cuba or in the US?
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:34 am to
Past.is.past
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:35 am to
Bravo on the troll job Isabelle
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:36 am to
quote:

quote:
every meal started with a Mohito





She's obviously fluent in espnayole.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:40 am to
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Past.is.past


If we forget the lessons of the past we are doomed to repeat them. A Pretty simple human truth. The idea is that we learn. And that when people IDEALIZE the atrocities of the past, we rightly correct them so that these lessons aren't forgotten. Isabella doesn't acknowledge these atrocities, she actually celebrates them and criticizes the political system that has given her freedoms that Cubans never dreamed of.



Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:48 am to
Accidentally down voted, Sockster. Meant to up vote. Sorry, and congrats!
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:49 am to
Japan has become an ally after much more harsh atrocities than.cuba has ever committed

Do they not deserve a chance?

Trust but verify.....and whatnot
Posted by TGFN57
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:52 am to
Just don't come back and say things like, well like what? Maybe they can just make up something out of whole cloth and then put a fake quote wth it to try and convince others that it's real. You know, like you do.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:56 am to
What are you arguing exactly? That Communism isn't that bad, and only low class rednecks worry about it?
Posted by tLSU
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:02 pm to
Bad news for Isabelle and the other worthless blood sucking leeches in this thread....
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:12 pm to
Isabella won't answer any questions. Isabella is a willful fool, a useful idiot. Now I suspect she may also be a lovely 66 year old woman, but that does not alleviate her moral culpability if she enthusiastically defends such a monstrous system. She doesn't know what she doesn't know.She has an understandable reluctance to start down a path of education and self-examination, for fear of where it will lead. That's how Communist-apologists roll. They stick to platitudes and stay away from Truth. They literally don't know about the 100,000,000 million dead. Nor do they care. And as this thread illustrates, they demand you educate them, or "it didn't happen".

And Rouge, not sure if you know this (being from West Baton Rouge Parish and all), but the Imperialist Japanese were defeated and discredited. And Japan became the great country it became only after it repudiated it's horrible past (like Germany),and one that I spent two years of my life in, in fact. Whereas Cuba is still run by Communist totalitarians who subjugate and impoverish their people. We can simultaneously be benevolent towards the Cuban people, even as we acknowledge the horrors and depredations of their political system and totalitarian rulers. Nobody wants to punish the Cuban people, we just want them to be truly free. The sooner Castro and Communism take their rightful spot in the ash bin of history, the better.
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