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re: Just back from 8 days in Havana, Cuba

Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Isabelle81
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:13 pm to
Dan, I'm not sure, but the privately owned Paladars may have been a part of the owners' homes. I did hear that there are quite a number of residences that offer B&B type settings.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:14 pm to
Not really. Grand Cayman, Barbados and many of the lesser Antilles are much different than DR, Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:21 pm to
Believe it or not, those guys were kind of oblivious to what was occurring under the revolutionaries holed up in the mountains. They felt that what they had going in Havana was immune to the revolution. They were sure that it would be quelled or at worst, the new regime would be more than happy to take over Batistes gravy train cuts from the mob. In fact, Castro assured them that Havana would remain 'business as usual'.....that is, until a few weeks later when he nationalized everything and kicked them out.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:22 pm to
Only the most politically connected and reliable citizens are allowed to live in Havana
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:57 pm to
As an aside, 'Havana Nocture' is an awesome book about the rise and fall of the mob in Havana. Man, when they had it going in the early to mid 50s it was the Monte Carlo of the Western Hemisphere.
Posted by NoBoBullDog
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 3:50 pm to
YOU ARE A frickING IMBECILE if you really believe that & it just proves that you have no clue about history. The Castro's did (do) horrific things to a lot of innocent people. Communism is the major source of oppression in this world. Please, renounce your citizenship & move there. You worthless POS. Oh Merry Christmas.
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 5:05 pm to
Wife's Great grand pa worked for US Foods (I think) in Cuba. Her Grand pa lived there until he was about 16. The government treated then well too, If by well we are talking taking everything they had and putting them on the boat back to the US.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1940 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 5:32 pm to
Why dont you have your Cuban friends and family come visit you for in the states for 8 days?

Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 5:36 pm to
I'll admit I'd be curious to visit simply for the curiousity sake- but holy hell, I can't believe people are arguing that it's a kinder gentler government and the culture of a forced time warp should be preserved.
Posted by Flame Salamander
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:35 pm to
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YOU ARE A frickING IMBECILE if you really believe that & it just proves that you have no clue about history. The Castro's did (do) horrific things to a lot of innocent people. Communism is the major source of oppression in this world. Please, renounce your citizenship & move there. You worthless POS. Oh Merry Christmas.


Hey Buddy, you should chill out on Christmas Eve...you obviously have no grasp at history or current events.

The US currently has a far, far greater rate of incarceration of their social sub-classes than Cuba does...and the US 'capitalist' society has murdered/killed a far greater percent of its social sub-classes than has ever been done in Cuba since it became socialist.

At least Cuba in theory tries to provide health care for its masses...something that the US has not done until Obamacare.

I'm not a fan of socialism/communism but neither am I a fan of unfettered capitalism...both are oppressive systems that have killed many innocent people over the years and are unworkable in the long term.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 6:55 pm to
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At least Cuba in theory tries to provide health care for its masses...something that the US has not done until Obamacare.


There is only one problem with the U.S. doesn't provide healthcare for its people. The people who actually work and pay taxes are paying for their own and for the people who don't work.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:02 pm to
I don't think that the majority of the people working at Walmart wages make enough to be able to afford a decent healthcare plan...so its not just "working" people paying for their own healthcare that allows them to have healthcare.

Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:04 pm to
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Flame Salamander


Because sophomore year is fun.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:06 pm to
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Because sophomore year is fun.


funny, I always thought pimp was short for pimple.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
50044 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:24 pm to
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I don't think that the majority of the people working at Walmart wages make enough to be able to afford a decent healthcare plan...so its not just "working" people paying for their own healthcare that allows them to have healthcare.


That's not my fault. I just got laid off after 25 years with the same company and will lose my health plan on Dec. 31st. I will be without insurance until I go back to work, that is my problem. I don't want nor do I expect you or any other working American to support my insurance.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:31 pm to
Sorry to hear that you got laid off. 25 years with one company is unusual in this day and age...I've been with 6 during that time.

It sounds like your health is good...wait until it isn't and see if you maintain the same attitude about not having any healthcare.

Good Luck!
Posted by Dagoose
Knoxville TN
Member since Nov 2014
541 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 9:07 pm to
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ust got back from Germany this summer. Not sure I had to do any Hitler salutes anywhere. Do you know if the Third Reich is still in power


Eggs. China?

The complaint was about something happend a lonnnng time ago.

Im no fan of Castro. But why should that limit my freedom to travel there?



Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27875 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 8:50 am to
oops. Double post.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 8:53 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27875 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 8:50 am to
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At least Cuba in theory tries to provide health care for its masses...something that the US has not done until Obamacare.

I'm not a fan of socialism/communism but neither am I a fan of unfettered capitalism...both are oppressive systems that have killed many innocent people over the years and are unworkable in the long term.


I'm looking up your post history. You must be a hit on the poli board.

Keep fighting the good fight hippy.

If people want to go to Cuba, go to Cuba. If you are a 75 year old man who wants to see his home one last time, how can you shame that person? If another 75 year old is still too pissed to ever set foot on Cuban soil, how can you blame him?

My friends mother travels to Cambodia still. My friend is half Thai half Cambodian. Her Mother ran through jungles for her life in 1975-76 while pregnant with my friend. Fleeing with her Thai husband. Had they been caught my friend probably would have been bayoneted in utero for being mixed and both parents would be in a mass grave somewhere. Both her and her mother have been back. Of course the Khmer Rogue is still no longer in power as the Castros. We're these women being "poverty chic"? Are others who just want to be well traveled?

If it is relatively safe and beautiful? Go.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 12/25/15 at 10:15 am to
Not addressing anyone in particular, but OnDemand CNN has a show on Cuba. Richard Quest did the show back in April of this year. Some great scenes in the show.
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