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re: Just back from 8 days in Havana, Cuba

Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:20 am to
Posted by The Sockster
Grayslake, Illinois
Member since Oct 2006
1030 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:20 am to
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Freedom, opportunity, and taking advantage of that opportunity.




Yes, and you know what? The American dream is still readily available and within reach of anyone that is not afraid of hard work. I love this country with all of my heart!
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:23 am to
You gotta shake the haters. Most of the people posting the negative shite live in a part of the country that receives the most federal aid, so not much different than the Cuban gov.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86492 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:23 am to
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LSU, I have family in Miami who came to the US as refugees. They became wealthy, materialistic citizens who could care less about anyone else. They won't have anything to do with anyone that is not on the same socio-economic level that they are on. That includes their relatives who were already in the US and helped them get to where they are today.


I bet their version of you sounds something like "we have a sad-sack relative in Louisiana that has made bad choices in her own life, not been as successful as she wished to be, and projects her unhappiness and dissatisfaction about her life onto us in the form of resentment because we choose a different path".

Listen, I don't know a single person who doesn't enjoy Cuban people/Cuban culture/Cuban food/Cuban music. What's not to like? But when you come here, under the guise of a vacation, to advance the insane notion that Cuba is somehow a better and more just society that the Western Democracies, you better have your facts straight. The 100,000,000 dead at the hands of Communism in the 20th Century would no-doubt be glad you enjoyed your Poverty-Chic vacation. But they'd probably like you to educate yourself about the evils of Communism as well.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18137 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:24 am to
Isabelle - I have a friend whose heritage is Cuban and recently visited. It is a strange and magical place. A facade, a former playground of the wealthy, a time capsule. I am glad you enjoyed your trip, but touting the government was not a wise move. Cuba can be appreciated for its interesting attributes. Don't elevate any government that enslaves its people by being a caretaker and/or master.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41519 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:25 am to
I wish Isabelle could post pics to slow down all this political bullshite.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50047 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:26 am to
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Yes, and you know what? The American dream is still readily available and within reach of anyone that is not afraid of hard work. I love this country with all of my heart!


You sir are what a American should be. I hope if your not a citizen yet that you apply and become one.
Posted by The Sockster
Grayslake, Illinois
Member since Oct 2006
1030 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:29 am to
Proud citizen of USA since 1982! Sworn in at a court house in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:29 am to
The Preservation Hall Jazz Band site may have pics posted. They have set up a private site for those who took the trip to Havana, but it is private.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29644 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:31 am to
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You gotta shake the haters. Most of the people posting the negative shite live in a part of the country that receives the most federal aid, so not much different than the Cuban gov.


Yeah, the demographics of TD are representative of this.

Also, didn't realize the Napoleonic Code had extrajudicial executions and torture of political prisoners. Interesting.
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:33 am to
Just have to put what has happened in the past behind us and move forward. This was what I frequently heard from the people I met in Cuba. They are very hopeful.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18227 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:35 am to
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Just have to put what has happened in the past behind us and move forward.


Right. So we just give the murderous dictators and their regime a pass because it's in the past.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86492 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:36 am to
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Most of the people posting the negative shite live in a part of the country that receives the most federal aid


Well it would be impolite and illegal for the Productive Class that labors to pay the bills to evict all those Democrats from Louisiana. But we'd be happy to send you all these recipients of federal aid, if you'd like them.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29644 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:40 am to
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Did the US have nukes pointed at them?

50 years ago. Do you still hate Germany and Japan as well?


Just got back from Germany this summer. Not sure I had to do any Hitler salutes anywhere. Do you know if the Third Reich is still in power?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27875 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:48 am to
How old are all of you people? I ask because a few years ago (probably 2008-9) during a Dominican trip we played golf. Took a shuttle from the hotel. My Mexican buddy heard older guy speaking Spanish and started talking. He was Cuban on vacation like us. He asked the guy if he would ever go back or wanted to visit. This guy must have been 70 then. He got "old man mad". Not at my buddy, just mad. "frick Castro! I will never go back!" He lived it. He was probably in his teens or pre teens but he lived it. He fled with his family and went through all the shite involved. He mad! But he has every right to be.

Folks 2-3 generations removed? Simmer down. Go or don't go. That's your decision. Every carribean island is a facade. Even Puerto Rico is impoverished in areas. DR is sketchy as hell. Jamaica? Drive inland, and see what there is to see. Dirt poor. Not many vacation in Kingston. Cuba is a much more extreme example due to communism and the way they are isolated.

Poli board anti Obama style comments are more ignorant though. Seeing how a "proper government" is run is just foolish. Ask an OLD Cuban how foolish? You might get punched by an old man in a hotel shuttle.
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1628 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:50 am to
"Just have to put what has happened in the past behind us"
I guess you feel the same way about removing the confederate monuments? As many problems New Orleans has and they worry about this crap !
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:52 am to
Post a real link or this goes on the giant pile of Internet bullshite
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:55 am to
Kew, history is history, we can't make it go away. And, no I am not for removing the monuments, as it will not change anything.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:58 am to
I have a thing for Latino women, btw. I like curvy women. Don't worry about these rednecks. I wanted you to post pics so I could see the women
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:58 am to
Communism,twisted,taking over.
Better go to DC and ask President Truman to do something about it.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86492 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 11:09 am to
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Post a real link or this goes on the giant pile of Internet bullshite


It's not my responsibility to educate you. It's your responsibility to educate yourself. And because so many are intellectually incurious we will always have those who don't value fact and truth and live in blissful little worlds that confirm their own little biases. You get to decide which you want to be, because you live in a country where internet access is not restricted/forbidden and nobody attempts to restrict your quest for truth. Get to it.
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