re: Jury awards $18 to innocent black man who was punched, tasered and arrested

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People whine and bitch about certain segments of society acting like the police are "out to get them" or whatever. And perhaps some of it is overblown. However, before these people act like shite like this never happens, they should realize that this kind of shite does happen

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Key part (of a terrific post, btw ).

I'm someone who tends to err in favor of LE when it comes to most cases of escalation. They're not perfect, of course, but personally, I think for every case where LE did step out of line, there are scores we don't hear about because they were successfully able to defuse. In general, I hinkle the police brutality phenomenon is very overblown, given the sheer amount of interactions between civilians and LE in this country.

However, the onus is still on me to ascertain the unique circumstances of each case as best as I can before passing judgment. In cases like this thread, where LE was clearly in the wrong, if I come out and say things against the victim like some have said itt, that's intellectual dishonesty on your part, and letting bias rule the day.

The same applies in reverse. It's ok to have a bias (provided it's not racial), but if you're ALWAYS coming down on one side, you're probably wilfully ignoring facts.

Some of the comments on this thread are beyond disgusting, even by O-T standards.

I didn't see on their rational basis to ask for a million. But $18 is absurd. Most mental anguish claims are BS but this guy probably has a case here.

And how on this green earth are these officers still employed? They need to go, along with anyone in the chain of command who decided they could stay.

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It's a problem across the board when it comes to these discussions. Battle lines are already drawn and folks just hunker down behind them even if their "side" is in the wrong in the particular instance.

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It's not just "these discussions". It's our entire national discourse these days, whether we are talking about politics, race, religion, education, immigration, government, etc.

Anyone who dares actually thinking about cases on an individual basis, and surely anyone who dares having opinions that vary, is labeled a moderate or a "cuck".

And we wonder why we can't get anything actually fixed around here.

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DeShawn Franklin was asleep in his bedroom when police officers, with their weapons drawn, barged in.

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Wasn't an English major and even I know this is a terrible sentence.

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Especially when it comes to the political discourse. I used to be a lot more willing to talk politics than I am today. Not because I'm less concerned, but because my choices for discussion forums are almost always 100% echo chamber vs. 100% screeching at any dissenting opinion. Not appealing to me.

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This.

I loved having political discussions on this board and IRL a few years ago. Just not worth it anymore. Most people are so entrenched in their side that anyone that isn't 100% aligned with their opinion on an complex issue is an idiot, a cuck, a liberal, an SJW, etc etc etc.


It wasn't like this a few years ago or at least it didn't seem like it to me. Sure you had those types in every argument, but they were relatively few and far between. Now it seems like there's been a significant uptick in the "I'm right. You're wrong. End of discussion. Go frick yourself." style of political discussion.

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I loved having political discussions on this board and IRL a few years ago

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Just not worth it anymore

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Back then a comment such as "Looks like he got too much" was an attempt at a troll. These days it's sheer ignorance and stupidity. You're right, not worth discussing anything with someone that makes such a dumbass statement.

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it seems like there's been a significant uptick in the "I'm right. You're wrong. End of discussion. Go frick yourself." style of political discussion.

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Yeah it's sad. When people are just going to talk past each other or shout each other down, what's the point?

Happened to my brother and I the other day on his Facebook page. We were having a heated, yet civil debate about Kaepernick with a liberal friend of mine, when the libs' friend showed up out of nowhere and just inundated the discussion with profanity, memes, and insults. Tried to keep it aboveboard for a long time, but finally just had to end the discussion because any true discourse was being hijacked by one idiot.

The internet is full of boards packed with hundreds of his type every day. Doesn't seem to be getting better any time soon, either.

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election years tend to bring the worst out in people. Or rather, brings their worst opinions out.

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Idk man, maybe it's just me getting older/more disenchanted, but it feels like it's just as ad now as it was this time last year.

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Do you think those cops should be put in jail?

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Yes. More so for this incident:

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According to a federal complaint, the officers slashed Ferguson’s tire, and two of them challenged him to eat a teaspoon of cinnamon in exchange for $30 and a dinner coupon at a local Applebee’s. Ferguson did, and he vomited for several hours.


The officers took a video of the “cinnamon challenge,” as it had become locally known, and posted it on YouTube, according to the complaint. The parties have reached a settlement in that lawsuit.

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He moves furniture for a living- a job reserved for high-functioning retards and lebesian women. Point to where I was racist in thinking him a financially inept clown for not taking the settlement?

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People use the race card waaaaaaaay to much. But this thread has proven bigotry and racism is still alive and well on an individual basis