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re: Jury awards $18 to innocent black man who was punched, tasered and arrested
Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:58 am to Street Hawk
Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:58 am to Street Hawk
$18.00 is some starter monet.
Buy $18 worth of crack, sale it for $25
Buy $25 worth of crack sale it for $32
see the pattern
Buy $18 worth of crack, sale it for $25
Buy $25 worth of crack sale it for $32
see the pattern
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Are we in consensus that this dude is the number 1 contender for biggest racist on this board?
He's definitely top 10. Perhaps even top 5.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:00 am to ManBearTiger
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Sensitive Justice Weinies have infested this board.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:01 am to The Torch
As long as he doesn't dip in to that 're-up' money
T-Spur lets get a list going.
Where you think MJ2 slots?
T-Spur lets get a list going.
Where you think MJ2 slots?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:03 am to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Did he endure 100k-300k in damage? Probably not, but it was alot more than $18.
:kige:
Something like this should be on po-po individually, not the taxpayers.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:04 am to SuperSaint
One thing I've learned in my message board career is to stay away from comprehensive poster lists of any sort like they're the damn plague 
Never ends well.
You'll have to go this one like hope, bruh.
Solo
Never ends well. You'll have to go this one like hope, bruh.
Solo
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:13 am to slackster
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According to Agostino, the city did offer $15,000 to settle the case. Johnny Ulmer, the Franklins’ attorney, was not available for comment on Monday. But he told the Star that damages for other similar cases are between $100,000 and $300,000.
$15k sounds about right to me unless I'm missing something.
Not sure why people are so hateful toward the victim here. I mean, perhaps racism, but that's so trite.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:35 am to USMCTiger03
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$15k sounds about right to me unless I'm missing something.
15k is a lowball. I'd like to see what evidence was actually presented at trial RE damages.
If you want the big dollars, you need to go to the doctors. If the lawyer didn't instruct his client to see doctors, get evals, etc etc then his lawyer is a dumbfrick and fricked over his client.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:37 am to USMCTiger03
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$15k sounds about right to me unless I'm missing something.
Really, though?
I'm not suggesting people "get rich" by suing someone...but in this case the guy was completely innocent, asleep in his bed, and dragged out by paid LEO's and tasered, etc.
I'm almost certain no amount of money would make me be ok with this if it were me, or my son or my wife...so there's no figure that would make me say, "Fine...I'm now happy about this," but I'd be pretty god damned pissed if they suggested the cost of a used Honda Civic would suffice for that level of frick up on the part of LEO.
Mostly, because if that's the only cost there is almost zero reason to fix this level of ineptitude on the part of those in charge.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:41 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Mostly, because if that's the only cost there is almost zero reason to fix this level of ineptitude on the part of those in charge.
This.
Jury fricked up in this case by sending a message to the local PD that as long as your don't actually hurt a person while violating their rights, we aren't going to punish you for violating said rights.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:43 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Jury fricked up in this case by sending a message to the local PD that as long as your don't actually hurt a person while violating their rights, we aren't going to punish you for violating said rights.
I'd assume there are/were no criminal repercussions in a case like this?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:50 am to slackster
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I'd assume there are/were no criminal repercussions in a case like this?
I assume they were no charges brought because they had a "reasonable belief" that they had the right guy when the busted in and started wailing on the guy. The arrest was "good" because the guy was resisting.
No "crimes" committed by the police.
Good shite.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:53 am to Street Hawk
how many trumpkins got wood upon reading this thread title?
...i'm assuming most trumpkins can read.
...i'm assuming most trumpkins can read.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 9:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Jury fricked up in this case by sending a message to the local PD that as long as your don't actually hurt a person while violating their rights, we aren't going to punish you for violating said rights.
Given what you've read here, does that kind of thing from a jury actually sound all that surprising?
I mean...a dude who had literally done nothing wrong got dragged out of his bed dead asleep, beaten on, tased, handcuffed and thrown into a police car. Are we really going to act like that isn't fricked up, or that we wouldn't be completely fricking outraged if that kind of thing happened to us or someone we loved? I'm not even going to make it a race thing here...simply a "well, it wasn't me" sort of thing. THAT GUY should be ok with it, even though we know full well that if we were in his shoes we'd be righteously pissed.
This story would be bad enough if it was the first of its kind...but we know better. At some point, accountability has to be the word of the day. it really is ok to both respect law enforcement AND hold them fully accountable for their frick ups and poor behavior. To do otherwise really does lesson the value of the earned support they deserve if it's given carte blanche even when they frick up.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:02 am to GeauxTigerTM
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At some point, accountability has to be the word of the day. it really is ok to both respect law enforcement AND hold them fully accountable for their frick ups and poor behavior. To do otherwise really does lesson the value of the earned support they deserve if it's given carte blanche even when they frick up.
Precisely. One side things police are out to get them specifically because of their skin color and the other thinks that outside of the most egregious actions, LEOs should get the benefit of the doubt. Reasonable folks are hard to find in this type of thread.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:19 am to The Torch
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$18.00 is some starter monet.
Buy $18 worth of crack, sale it for $25
Buy $25 worth of crack sale it for $32
see the pattern
I see a pattern. Is the one you are referring to related to punctuation or proper word usage?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:25 am to slackster
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but $1MM is absurd too.
Interesting. Usually, the OT loves to wax wistful over how they would love to kill anyone who broke into their house.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:30 am to USMCTiger03
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Not sure why people are so hateful toward the victim here.
Really? You're not sure? It's just a big, unsolvable mystery, huh?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:36 am to GeauxTigerTM
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This story would be bad enough if it was the first of its kind...but we know better. At some point, accountability has to be the word of the day. it really is ok to both respect law enforcement AND hold them fully accountable for their frick ups and poor behavior. To do otherwise really does lesson the value of the earned support they deserve if it's given carte blanche even when they frick up.
Accountability for one's actions and paying for your mistakes only applies to civilians, not LEO on this board.
This case is just evidence that the Judicial system is set up to hammer civilians (and perhaps, particularly black civilians) for their mistakes, but that LEOs are afforded extreme leniency and must commit some truly egregious offenses to even receive a fraction of the blame/punishment they deserve. It's just frustrating to see people who preach about accountability argue that the people who SHOULD be held to the highest standard (those enforcing the law) should be held to the lowest standard (benefit of the doubt in virtually all instances). Why is that? Why do some people feel the need to defend the fact that LEOs are held to a lower standard than the general populace?
Mistakenly assault a police officer - Get your arse beat, and/or shot and killed, or jailed, etc. are pretty much guarantees.
Police officer mistakenly assault an innocent citizen - No jail time, no fine, no personal monetary loss, etc.
People whine and bitch about certain segments of society acting like the police are "out to get them" or whatever. And perhaps some of it is overblown. However, before these people act like shite like this never happens, they should realize that this kind of shite does happen, and happens way more frequently that it should.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:41 am to Street Hawk
Black, white, Asian, doesn't matter. What happened to this man was an injustice and he deserves much more than pocket change.
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