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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:47 am to crewdepoo
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Republicans will shut it down
I am a middle of the road Republican who is all in on legalization. Plenty of us out here and more and more Republicans in Congress becoming more and more open to it.
It baffles me. Go to Seattle. They have it figured out.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:48 am to cgrand
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Jerry Nadler
Is a retard
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:52 am to PipelineBaw
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It's Big Pharma and Big Beer that are the heavy hitters against legalization
Most of pharma and alcohol have diversified into marijuana. It's LEO that is still the roadblock.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:53 am to slackster
Congress has more important things to do like listen to Mueller
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:02 pm to cgrand
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the biggest issue facing legal states right now is access to the banking system...the one that stares you in the face is the cash-only issue at the retail level, but the bigger obstacle to continued growth and investment is that no financial institution will extend a loan or line of credit for cannabis industry investment, because they can't
To expand on that - many financial institutions won't take clean money if they know it came from marijuana roots. For example, if you sold your stake in a marijuana business to another individual for $500k and tried to deposit that check into a financial institution, they may reject it if they find out the origin. If that deposit is out of the norm, they're required by AML to ask about the source.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:39 pm to PipelineBaw
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It's Big Pharma and Big Beer that are the heavy hitters against legalization. A surprising number of law enforcement are in favor of reworking the laws
Yup, most LEO's I know or have talked to about it (which isn't a whole lot) said they'd prefer it to be legal. Alcohol and hard drugs are the culprit behind most crime. Nobody gets high and decides to go frick shite up. It's way easier to work security at an event full of potheads than a biker rally.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:41 pm to ColoradoAg03
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Yup, most LEO's I know or have talked to about it (which isn't a whole lot) said they'd prefer it to be legal.
It's not rank and file LEOs who care about it - it's DA and prison associations along with police unions. The leadership wants the status quo to remain in place.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:42 pm to Tigeralum2008
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LEO groups won’t let that happen
This right here tells me you've never spoken to a police officer about it. LEO's arent the problem with this one.
No police officer I've dealt with cares about weed. They're trying to go home at night.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:43 pm to slackster
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Original cosponsors of Harris's Senate bill include Sens. Cory Booker (D-NJ) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)—two of her rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination—as well as Sens. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and Ron Wyden (D-OR).
Signing onto the House version are Rules Committee Chair James McGovern (D-MA) and Small Business Committee Chair Nydia Velazquez (D-NY).
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) is the sole Republican cosponsor, and is joined by Reps. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR), Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), David Cicilline (D-RI), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Lou Correa (D-CA), Madeleine Dean (D-PA), Ted Deutch (D-FL), Veronica Escobar (D-TX), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Hank Johnson (D-GA), Ted Lieu (D-CA), Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Jamie Raskin (D-MA), Eric Swalwell (D-CA), Dwight Evans (D-PA), Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), Debra A. Haaland (D-NM), Ro Khanna (D-CA), Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ).
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:47 pm to cgrand
What happened to HR 420? Did it die in committee?
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:58 pm to upgrayedd
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Sheriff's groups, that depend on funding derived from housing the state's prisoners, are about to come out of the woodwork
Bet the "for profit" prison owners use their connections to keep the incarcerated populations high too.
Companies like The Corrections Corporation of America, that runs 61 facilities across the United States, including Winn Correctional Center in Winnfield, Louisiana.
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The Vanguard Group, the country’s second-largest money management firm, holds 14 percent of CCA stock, valued at $447 million as of late 2015.
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No vacancy CCA and other prison companies have written “occupancy guarantees” into their contracts, requiring states to pay a fee if they cannot provide a certain number of inmates. Winn Correctional Center was guaranteed to be 96 percent full.
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Notable company figures:
Thurgood Marshall Jr.: CCA board member, lawyer, and son of the first African American Supreme Court justice.
Charles Overby: CCA board member and former CEO of the Freedom Forum, a foundation that promotes press freedoms.
C. Michael Jacobi: CCA board member and chairman of gunmaker Sturm Ruger.
Harley Lappin: CCA’s chief corrections officer and former director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
MotherJones.com
The people that own prisons are like the people that own waste disposal companies. They are all connected to people in high places.
ETA:
CCA is a $1.8 billion private prison corporation!
From 9/25/2019:
quote:Time.com
Before founding the Corrections Corporation of America, a $1.8 billion private prison corporation now known as CoreCivic, Terrell Don Hutto ran a cotton plantation the size of Manhattan.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 12:59 pm to cgrand
This should be passed unanimously
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:03 pm to Damone
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FWIW big pharma is against it more than the pigs/prisons
truth... we are trying our best to get it legalized here in LA, but tying shite to the Farm Bill and other players are at hand... mainly pharma companies that stand to lose out... and as a pharmacist, i say frick 'em... even though it would certainly hurt my pocketbook a little bit, it should be legalized... i support it...
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:04 pm to TaderSalad
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This right here tells me you've never spoken to a police officer about it. LEO's arent the problem with this one. No police officer I've dealt with cares about weed. They're trying to go home at night.
Sigh.
It's not the rank an file that are the problem.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:09 pm to el Gaucho
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abusing dangerous narcotics
Charlie Brown knows the difference even.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:11 pm to themunch
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Earlier today, the Senate Banking Committee held a hearing on the SAFE Banking Act, which would allow financial institutions to engage in activities with state-legal cannabis businesses.
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“Forcing businesses to operate in cash is an invitation to crime, money laundering, and robbery,” said U.S. Senator Jeff Merkley, the lead sponsor of the SAFE Banking Act. “Whether you’re for or against legal cannabis, we all agree that we want our communities to be safe from fraud and crime. That’s why this legislation has significant bipartisan support in both houses of Congress. I’m pleased to see the momentum for this legislation continue to grow, and I’m going to keep fighting to get this legislation over the finish line in this Congress.”
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:12 pm to cgrand
Why on Earth would you expunge criminal records for potheads and dealers? If you did something knowingly against the law at the time, you don't get excused because the law changed.
Plus only 5% tax?
Nadler can GFH if he thinks 5% taxation is reasonable. Tax the crap out of it. If people want to get high, they can pay for it like cigarettes.
Plus only 5% tax?
Nadler can GFH if he thinks 5% taxation is reasonable. Tax the crap out of it. If people want to get high, they can pay for it like cigarettes.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:13 pm to slackster
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Sigh.
It's not the rank an file that are the problem.
Yeah, this isn’t that hard to understand. I’m a teacher, but I get zero say in educational policy making, and disagree with most of it.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 1:16 pm to slackster
wrong thread
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 1:17 pm
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