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Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:49 pm to Tigeralum2008
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HR has the salary already allotted.
If they allot $85K but ask you first and you're foolish enough to say $75K... well....You just earned the HR Manager a raise for reducing salary costs...
Yup - it’s a game of trying to aim just a few bucks higher than they want but close enough you don’t rule yourself out and may even get the higher number if they are serious... but not low ball or price so high to scare them off.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:50 pm to Janky
Not real difficult to find out what the average pay is for any position, especially an entry level. I realize he is a recent graduate and may not have been coached on interviewing but if you really want a position at a certain company, do your research on the company. It is definitely a plus in an interview if you show that you know the company.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:51 pm to Janky
answer without answering - "lets start with the range that you are putting on the position" respond as you are comfortable
second press - "I'd like to be paid what I am worth, the question is, what do you feel as though I am worth"
third press / ultimatum - research the position and respond, "if youre going to press me, I'd like to be paid ______ "(about 30% higher than top scale) when they balk, defer back to your earlier two responses
All else fails during salary negotiations, ask for other forms of comp - stock, additional PTO, flex time, work from home, etc
edit - you should absolutely NOT be the one to put the first number out there
second press - "I'd like to be paid what I am worth, the question is, what do you feel as though I am worth"
third press / ultimatum - research the position and respond, "if youre going to press me, I'd like to be paid ______ "(about 30% higher than top scale) when they balk, defer back to your earlier two responses
All else fails during salary negotiations, ask for other forms of comp - stock, additional PTO, flex time, work from home, etc
edit - you should absolutely NOT be the one to put the first number out there
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:52 pm to Janky
Spin off: How normal is it for anyone else for an applicant to ask how much they are gonna make out the gate. I've recently started hiring and in every call but one, everyone has asked how much the pay is. It's my companies policy to not discuss this until we make a formal offer....is this weird cause it feels odd to me to ask that the first time someone reaches out to you.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:53 pm to Janky
Yes. He needs to do legitimate research because you don’t want to shoot yourself in the foot, but also don’t want to leave money on the table.
I recommend finding a value he thinks is appropriate and adding 10% to it. If they’re on the high side of average he may get what he asks, but likely they can come to an agreement somewhere in between.
I recommend finding a value he thinks is appropriate and adding 10% to it. If they’re on the high side of average he may get what he asks, but likely they can come to an agreement somewhere in between.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:54 pm to Janky
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Is it normal for the interviewer to ask you what you expect to be paid?
Yes, Very
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:54 pm to Janky
Yes, that's standard. I would suggest looking up the salary for that particular position with his experience and give a number a tad bit higher (because you are better ;) ). Then explain where you got your data.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:55 pm to Janky
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Is it normal for the interviewer to ask you what you expect to be paid?
Yes
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:55 pm to scott8811
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Spin off: How normal is it for anyone else for an applicant to ask how much they are gonna make out the gate. I've recently started hiring and in every call but one, everyone has asked how much the pay is. It's my companies policy to not discuss this until we make a formal offer....is this weird cause it feels odd to me to ask that the first time someone reaches out to you.
Businesses have done a good job in conditioning the populace to think you're not supposed to talk about salary so they can maintain an upper hand. Good to see that might be changing and people aren't shy about it anymore.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:56 pm to scott8811
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is this weird cause it feels odd to me to ask that the first time someone reaches out to you.
Would you prefer to get go through interviews, decide to offer a candidate, only to find out you are nowhere close on compensation and end up having wasted their time and yours?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:56 pm to scott8811
quote:I've never approached it that way, but it kinda makes sense. Why waste time with multiple interviews if the applicant is looking for a job that pays 75k and the position you're offering maxes out at 50k? If there isn't an understanding as to what the general pay scale is for the position, then you're bound to waste your time and the time of some potential applicants.
Spin off: How normal is it for anyone else for an applicant to ask how much they are gonna make out the gate. I've recently started hiring and in every call but one, everyone has asked how much the pay is. It's my companies policy to not discuss this until we make a formal offer....is this weird cause it feels odd to me to ask that the first time someone reaches out to you.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:57 pm to Janky
Yeah, this is part of the negotiation process. At some point someone has to talk about salary. There's a lot of different strategies, and a lot depends on your situation and bargaining power. You don't want to undersell yourself and leave money on the table. But you also can't ask for too much and appear unreasonable. It sucks. Start by researching average wages for the area, position, and level of experience.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:57 pm to Boudreaux35
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Not real difficult to find out what the average pay is for any position, especially an entry level. I realize he is a recent graduate and may not have been coached on interviewing but if you really want a position at a certain company, do your research on the company. It is definitely a plus in an interview if you show that you know the company.
Exactly. When I was graduating, the top people were getting jobs in the $45,000 / year range, so I said $49,000. You don't have to be a dick and refuse to name the first figure. These people aren't selling you a car, they're trying to decide if they want to be around you every day for the next year or two. Going in as Mr. OT Hardass who's trying to get a truck for $30,000 off sticker might turn them off.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:58 pm to LNCHBOX
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Would you prefer to get go through interviews, decide to offer a candidate, only to find out you are nowhere close on compensation and end up having wasted their time and yours?
I see where your coming from, but I'm currently hiring behavior therapy techs. It's hourly and I highly doubt it varies more than a couple dollars from place to place. It's not like I'm gonna offer them $17 an hour and the clinic across town is gonna offer them 75K a year
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:59 pm to Boudreaux35
quote:Average pay for positions varies wildly based upon location, and some locations aren't large enough to have valid salary information available online.
Not real difficult to find out what the average pay is for any position, especially an entry level.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:01 pm to scott8811
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I see where your coming from, but I'm currently hiring behavior therapy techs. It's hourly and I highly doubt it varies more than a couple dollars from place to place. It's not like I'm gonna offer them $17 an hour and the clinic across town is gonna offer them 75K a year
Even less reason for you to not care about disclosing your rate then. Just another one of those antiquated business philosophies IMO.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:02 pm to scott8811
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It's hourly and I highly doubt it varies more than a couple dollars from place to place.
If you're only making $17/hr a couple dollars per hour makes a difference
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:03 pm to scott8811
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behavior therapy techs
Sounds ominous. Does it involve carrying around some sort of stun gun or rubber truncheon?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:04 pm to Janky
Yes. We ask that before the start of ever external interview we do.
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