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Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by CalcuttaTigah
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:06 pm to
I always reply with at least $10-20k more salary than you currently make or the market is at. After that, you can then say you're flexible based on bonus and other benefits available as part of the overall compensation package.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Is it normal for the interviewer to ask you what you expect to be paid?

Yes. Very standard.

Best response is: "within your salary range". (Your friend's son should know the salary range prior to the interview. If he doesn't, he didn't do proper prep work.)
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:07 pm to
Find out what market value is and add $10k-$20k to that. That's what I did with my new position and it served me well. Screened out many, many underpaid jobs that way.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
10875 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:11 pm to
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You don't have to be a dick and refuse to name the first figure.


youre not being a dick, youre just not negotiating against yourself...like rick on pawn stars

if its about them not wanting to waste their time, tell them you are open to discussing, but really havent focused on that because you are more focused on how incredible the opportunity is

this is your best chance to get set money wise...raises are piddlins....promotions are years away...dont be scared
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
515 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:13 pm to
1. Answer that you'll be happy with whatever they are prepared to pay and are ready to begin work immediately.
2. You can handle 6 months of just about anything
3. Start looking (or don't stop looking) while employed.
4. It's always easier to find a job when you already have one.
5. If their pay isn't that good, so what? You've gained experience you didn't have.
6. Bust your arse for them from the get go.
7. Good luck
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113947 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:14 pm to
It happens, but I don't think its a question that should be asked to someone who just graduated. One time I went on an interview soon after I finished school.

During the interview I just didn't feel like it was going well.. I was young and an idiot so not caring at that point, I was asked how much do I think I should be paid and I told them something like "If I am being honest, I doubt the company is worth as much as I think I am worth". The guy was like "well.. someone thinks highly of himself. Thank you for coming in this morning, we will let you know if we decide to hire you".

I never heard back from them.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7369 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:14 pm to
Bout tree fiddy PER HOUR
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:19 pm to
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My friend's son


okay "son," at point in time you have to grow up, and "answer the Lieutenant's question!!!"
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48840 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:23 pm to
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I love how they want him to negotiate against himself.



Never bid against yourself. Never.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108359 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:25 pm to
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My friend's son just graduated and was offered a job. However, the company is asking him what he expects t get paid.


Find out the market average for the job and then just put 3K lower than it is. Just for starting jobs though.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10216 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:26 pm to
That’s some shitty advice.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108359 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:26 pm to
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If they allot $85K but ask you first and you're foolish enough to say $75K... well....You just earned the HR Manager a raise for reducing salary costs...



He's not getting paid that much right after college. Yeah, don't low ball when you've been in your field for 3 plus years.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56280 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:27 pm to
I would love to make X, of course other things like benefits, bonus, and opportunity to advance can offset some of the salary required.

You should pretty well know what X is in your field, and yes it is pretty standard.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Member since Oct 2018
10875 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:27 pm to
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That’s some shitty advice




huh bruh!!!
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1013 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:28 pm to
I do this when I hire but it’s to see how much they really want to work for us. Sometimes they say some absurd amount and I tell them right then and there that number isn’t possible so they are surprised with an lower offer. They’ll either say I can work with that or sorry. Which is ok.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56280 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Find out the market average for the job and then just put 3K lower than it is. Just for starting jobs though.

The market average better be a shite load higher than the value of a new grad...a whole lot higher than 3k. If you are making 3k more than a new grad at the midpoint of a career, you done messed up.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108359 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:30 pm to
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That’s some shitty advice.



If it's an entry level position and you don't have any experience, I don't see why it is. They're gambling on you instead of some guy with 5 years experience and some results. Beggars can't be choosers. Get the best entry level position you can out of college because after that your degree is basically worthless.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2530 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:35 pm to
No
Response something like I realize what a great opportunity it would be to work for a company like yours and understand y’all offer competitive salary and benefits. I look forward to working for an organization like this that respects work and family environment...

Throw it back on them...

I recruited for my large Corp oil company and we never never brought up salary ...but did discuss benefits like vacation..medical..bonus..stock options etc...
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:41 pm to
Kind of trashy to ask it in the interview.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12738 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:42 pm to
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The market average better be a shite load higher than the value of a new grad...a whole lot higher than 3k. If you are making 3k more than a new grad at the midpoint of a career, you done messed up.




Reminds me of my first job out of grad school. I was hired at a large CPA firm, not big 4 but a large regional firm. The first couple of days we had orientation. They brought all the new hires, Tax Dept and Audit Dept, into the big meeting room. One of the people talking to us was over HR and Operations. She told us that every single person starting out fresh from school was making the exact same salary and benefits. They did market studies annually, and the firm managers decided on a number. It didn't matter what school(s) you went to, what your GPA was, or your extracurricular activities. If you were offered an entry level job, they were going to view them all the same.

There were certain milestones needed for promotion, like so many years experience, passing your CPA exam, etc. I think it was after 1 year you were promoted to Senior Accountant instead of Staff if you basically were a warm body and showed up to work. Passing the exam and a few years of experience would get you to a Manager. From there it went on up to Sr Manager then Partner. There were obviously pay scales at each position, and talking about your pay was discouraged, and said you could be terminated if they found out.

Well I was good friends with a couple of the guys I started with. After a year when we got raises, we realized after a long few days out of town and drinking that we all got the same raise. We never talked about it with anyone else. No big deal, we all were paid fairly well for what we were doing. Fast forward to that year's new hires in the Fall, and one of them let it slip what their offer was. I guess he assumed after they got their orientation talk that all of them were making the same that he would ask around some of the folks that had been there a few years what they were making. He wasn't the brightest bulb. I heard it through office gossip, and some folks that had been there 2-3 years were livid that they were making only a few hundred more a year than new hires. I guess they were the ones that didn't get the larger raises. A couple of them left on their own within a few months. Some were told to start looking for a new job. Some were let go immediately, along with the new guy that opened his big mouth.
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