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re: Jeremy Clarkson, formerly of Top Gear UK, dumps on Corvette Z06

Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:03 am to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:03 am to
Meh, the Tesla P85D is the American car game changer
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:08 am to
Clarkson is no fan of most things not British. Top Gear was always more about the stunts than actual technical accuracy too. These are not people who understand the engineering and it goes along with much of their target audience.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:09 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
66109 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:17 am to
In all fairness all three of them said they loved the new stingray.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:20 am to
He loves his Ford GT though
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:21 am to
These car "experts" don't always know wtf they are doing. When I was deciding between the A8 and M7 on my Vette, I watched a lot of videos. One car show had its "expert" host running 0-60 times in the manual. He ran several runs with launch control on and then off, and he couldn't get a single run under 5 seconds.Then one of the Chevy engineers ran it, beating him on the first attempt but still above 5 seconds. In my car, on my very FIRST attempt with no launch control and a crappy start, I ran a 4.5. Easily beat that on later attempts, and still far from the cars full potential (i.e. 3.9).
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:21 am to
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People who rag on the Vette has obviously never driven one.


Fair enough. My old man bought one off the showroom floor in 1981 (no comparison to today, I'm sure) but I don't really remember anything more than taking a couple rides in it (two-seater, so not much of a place for a toddler). I haven't ridden in or driven one as an adult.
Posted by Them
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:22 am to
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For some reason Brits have this idea we build the Vette to compete with Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Aston. When in reality it's price point is designed to compete with Porsche


In England, the current Z06 is priced right about where a brand new 911 Turbo/Audi R8 V10/AMG GTS is. Let that sink in and then maybe you'll understand Jezza's point.

I understand that a lot of the vitriol is part of his shtick about putting American cars on blast but he has a point here.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:23 am to
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by forksup
He loves his Ford GT though





He sold it a long time ago because it kept a breaking.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:28 am to
Sounds about right.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:33 am to
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Why? It's a $118,000 car that can hang with and possibly beat cars that cost 3 to 5 x's as much. It also won't go into limp mode after being hot lapped. In terms of performance, it'll be hard to beat. The old ACR still holds the #2 time for production cars around the Nurburgring...this one has more power, better suspension, and almost double the down force.


Because no one is buying the new Viper, sales were so horrible they had to discount them $15k to move any.

That old ACR that ran that time, while Stout, was setup specifically to run that time. Dodge had 8 engineers on site to manipulate the suspension. The toe in was so aggressive you couldn't drive it the street. Not sure if you have ever driven one but not something you want to commute or spend several hours inside.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:35 am to
More to do with the import company than Ford. See the F150 Lightning episode for reference.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:35 am to
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Not sure if you have ever driven one but not something you want to commute or spend several hours inside.


I wouldn't want to spend several hours at a time in most any super car or race car. They aren't built to be comfortable. Is this really a criticism?
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 10:36 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14207 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:52 am to
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That old ACR that ran that time, while Stout, was setup specifically to run that time. Dodge had 8 engineers on site to manipulate the suspension. The toe in was so aggressive you couldn't drive it the street.


Doesn't change the fact it's $100,000+ less than its competitors and can be driven in off the street and put down record times. It's a performance bargain. No one commutes in super cars, that's not what they're for.
Posted by fisherbm1112
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:02 am to
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You know how I know you know nothing about you are trying to spew?



Please enlighten me
Posted by Britlab
Nashville
Member since Jan 2014
371 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:09 am to
Yeah but, is he going to change his name to Jenifer?
Posted by fisherbm1112
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
6572 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:09 am to
I am not saying corvettes haven't greatly improved and aren't competitive however you will never earn a Europeans respect unless it is mid engine. We are viewed purely as drag racers and that's all the corvette was for a really long time. I love corvettes my dad has never not had at least one since the day I was born including now. All I am trying to say is that you can't expect for some guy who drives or drove I guess quarter million dollar cars for a living to give what they think is the redneck of muscle a whole lot of credit. I was not speaking matter of fact I was more speaking from the opinion that I have heard countless corvette bashers bitch about and it wasn't frat boys bitching two of them own ferraris and the other two own high end 911's.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:09 am to
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Please enlighten me


You wrote:

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whereas the corvette though they keep trying to change is a straight line machine


This simply isn't true, despite what your outdated prejudices think
Posted by wiz khaweefa
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:11 am to
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Jeremy Clarkson, formerly of Top Gear UK, dumps on Corvette Z06




Came here thinking Jeremy Clarkson took a shite on a car. Needless to say I was sadly mistaken.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138932 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:11 am to
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This simply isn't true, despite what your outdated prejudices think


Yep. I'm pretty sure the Vette and Ferrari share the same suspension.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39658 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:20 am to
Mag ride is the greatest invention ever for a sports/ touring car.

Thanks Delphi.
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