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re: Jeremy Clarkson explores the modern fascination with bicycle lanes

Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:42 pm to
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As soon as bikers pay taxes


Local roads are paid for with property taxes and sales taxes where I live. Bike lanes would be paid for the same way.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
16056 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:44 pm to
Bike lanes have been added to 2 roads I use frequently and they have screwed them up tremendously. One shot me right through downtown, now that same street is a parking lot.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:02 pm to
The old school way of designing local,surface roads purely to move automobiles efficiently has changed. Most cities are trying to slow cars down and encourage other modes of transportation not just by building bike lanes but by narrowing roads and widening sidewalks, making one way roads two ways and adding stop lights.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10986 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Gotta have extra calories to ride a bike so it's bad for the environment


Paraphrased.

If he's genuine, he's a dipshit.

You'd have to calculate the caloric equivalent of driving a vehicle instead. Here's a hint--it takes a lot more energy to move a 4000 lbs vehicle. than a 200lb man + bike.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:50 pm to
Bicyclists must pay a road use tax.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:22 pm to
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Bicyclists must pay a road use tax.


How much? $10/ yr? $20? I only pay $60/yr for my truck. Do kids have to pay this tax?

In reality, cities are trying to encourage more cyclists and so would never require a liscense for cycling. Same reason most cities have repealed helmet laws for cyclist.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 10:32 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:29 pm to
watched this video earlier today

Pretty sure it was originally named "Cyclists Can F**k Off"
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:33 pm to
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The real modern facination is people who are unable to adapt to or accept that the world has always and always will change.


Technology changes, but human nature, that’s fixed and unchanging.

That’s why there’s no such thing as actual progress.

This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 11:45 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:21 am to
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Local roads are paid for with property taxes and sales taxes where I live. Bike lanes would be paid for the same way.


Roads are built for commerce. Vehicle owners also pay for registration, inspections, wheel taxes, etc...to help maintain public roads. A small group of narcissists in leotards "exercising" is not something I want one tax dollar going to.


Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32885 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:26 am to
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Roads are built for commerce. Vehicle owners also pay for registration, inspections, wheel taxes, etc...to help maintain public roads.



Most cyclists also own cars and pay all of the above (in addition to property and sales taxes that maintain city streets).

quote:

A small group of narcissists in leotards "exercising" is not something I want one tax dollar going to.


Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:46 am to
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quote:

Gotta have extra calories to ride a bike so it's bad for the environment


Paraphrased.

If he's genuine, he's a dipshit.

You'd have to calculate the caloric equivalent of driving a vehicle instead. Here's a hint--it takes a lot more energy to move a 4000 lbs vehicle. than a 200lb man + bike.


It wasn't energy used to move the objects. It was transporting and growing the larger amounts of food you need to eat because you ride a bike negates any reduction in your carbon footprint you may have gained.

Though, I'm sure that calculation could get messy when you take into account transport and refining energy for vehicle fuels.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42724 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:47 am to
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enjoy the OT constantly complaining about everyone being too fat while simultaneously complaining about people being active


Oh we want you to be active, just somewhere far away from us or in a gym. And especially not on Instagram
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42724 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:49 am to
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Also the OT: "What the frick you want your own lane?"


That takes away space from motor vehicles and requires lower speed limits adjacent to it
Posted by Noryev
Member since Aug 2018
1245 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:49 am to
Judging by the replies, it looks like a lot of people here have never watched Top Gear or Grand Tour.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 7:51 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42724 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:50 am to
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The old school way of designing local,surface roads purely to move automobiles efficiently has changed. Most cities are trying to slow cars down and encourage other modes of transportation not just by building bike lanes but by narrowing roads and widening sidewalks, making one way roads two ways and adding stop lights.


Is this true? If so, frick THEM.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
27001 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:03 am to
Bicycle commuters are hell to deal with in a car or as a pedestrian. It seems like 75% of them just completely ignore traffic laws.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42724 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:26 am to
It’s because most of them don’t know the laws and do not realize they are subject to the same laws as a car as the law does not consider them pedestrians
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:29 am to
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As soon as bikers pay taxes and license fees to cover the cost of those lanes.


You don't do this for a car.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32885 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:31 am to
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Bicycle commuters are hell to deal with in a car or as a pedestrian. It seems like 75% of them just completely ignore traffic laws.


Here in Atlanta, car commuters ignore traffic laws at roughly the same percentage.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:46 am to
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Most cyclists also own cars and pay all of the above (in addition to property and sales taxes that maintain city streets).


A development I’m working in was required to put in a turn lane and widen the road a quarter mile each way before the entrance to the community.

The cost to the developer was $15,000,000.00. A single turn lane is pretty close to a bike lane in both directions. But the developer will recoup the costs associated. He has many company and private vehicles he was already paying all the above but still incurred the cost for his endeavor.

Your hobby would be a waste of money to 99.5% of the taxpayers. Narcissism.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 8:50 am
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