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re: Jeep canceling the full sized Wagoneer SUV
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:37 pm to N2cars
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:37 pm to N2cars
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Rams are ok, but dont hold value like the competition.
If you buy a Ram you are buying it for long term. I just bought a used one and so far it has been a great truck.
On that note, I have a Jeep Wrangler for sale- 06 TJ with a 4.0 motor.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:41 pm to member12
Nobody wants to pay $90k for a reshaped Grand Cherokee.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:00 pm to member12
Rented one a couple times very nice but would never buy
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:46 am to Hamma1122
I've driven them as a rental a couple times.
If I had unlimited money, I actually would buy one. Drive well and very roomy.
If I had unlimited money, I actually would buy one. Drive well and very roomy.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:49 am to Iron Lion
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Would you pay 100k for a Jeep?
There are a ton of people that have no business buying six figure vehicles.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:05 am to member12
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A lot of people say that this might not be the case since non-recalled models and repaired models are also seeing main bearing failures too.
I think the oil they are using is to thin. Some of those Toyota are using 0w8 oil.
Gm has the same issue running 0w20 and changed it 0w40.
Oil weight is based on temperature. The 0w20 would probably be ok in a car but using it in truck that's likely to pull a trailer etc, in an engine that was designed to run 5w30 to begin with was asinine.
They are running these light grades of oil for fuel economy ratings and could care less if your engine is destroyed after the warranty expires.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:19 am to member12
A $100,000 Chrysler SUV didn't make it? Color me shocked 
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:05 am to olddawg26
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Price tag would be dead set around 95k for a new one and not 110+
For a series III?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:07 am to Gifman
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If you buy a jeep you better have a great mechanic
I want a cj7 with a V8 and with a straight shift.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:10 am to YouKnowImRight
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Twin turbo 6 cyl is a better engine than any V8 in every measurable except durability and sound. I prefer a NA V8 for those two reasons, but to argue it's a better engine performance wise is just not true
So then why not just make twin-turbo V8’s?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:12 am to 3deadtrolls
Yeah. I’m headed to the CHP test track Saturday to see the pursuit rated grand wagoneer be put through their tests.
The grand isn’t going away. It just recently got the pursuit rating for LEO agencies.
The grand isn’t going away. It just recently got the pursuit rating for LEO agencies.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:15 am to Warfox
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So then why not just make twin-turbo V8’s?
Turbo inherently is more complex and has more possible points of failure. The value of NA V8 is the absence of turbo, and the CAFE standards even managed to make V8s unreliable.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 7:17 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:19 am to The Boat
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Our 2015 Wrangler has never been in the shop
Sweet anecdote. I’ll go buy one immediately.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:20 am to member12
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consumers weren’t excited about the turbocharged 3 liter engine

Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:31 am to member12
Do you have numbers on before and after the engine change?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:56 am to HooDooWitch
True.
I just meant that 38K doesn't buy a whole lot of vehicle anymore.
6cyl.
Auto
4wd
AC, tilt, cruise, PW
Sunroof (s)
Good deal, I felt like...
I just meant that 38K doesn't buy a whole lot of vehicle anymore.
6cyl.
Auto
4wd
AC, tilt, cruise, PW
Sunroof (s)
Good deal, I felt like...
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:02 am to member12
I rented a grand wagoneer a few months back and it was actually pretty smooth for the 3 days I drove it. But there is no way in hell I would pay that much for a jeep.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:21 am to Iron Lion
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Would you pay 100k for a Jeep?
this! When they slapped a 100k price tag on it and tried to pretend it was better than a Cadillac escalade
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:39 am to rooster108bm
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I think the oil they are using is to thin. Some of those Toyota are using 0w8 oil.
It is. People switch to 5W20 and they idle better and generally run better. I have my first oil change coming up and will be switching to see how it goes. But I also don’t have any of the rough idle or other issues.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:50 am to hometownhero89
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GM is the best available.
GM has basically said it will never abandon the small block V8.

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