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re: JBE to reinstitute mask mandate this week...beginning Wednesday and effective until Sept 1

Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29502 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:16 pm to
I have not worn one.

I will not wear one.

Eat a massive bag of dicks you worthless count.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10683 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:16 pm to
Effective until September 1 lol. Keep dreaming.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10681 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:19 pm to
Zero fricks given. I just resigned today from teaching. Sixteen years, been teacher of the year, and love education. Can’t deal with the bullshite anymore. Life is too short.
Posted by Mantard
A Better Place
Member since Nov 2011
122 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Everything we have studied points to the vaccine being overwhelmingly safe.


So nice that early inconclusive data is pointing the direction you want, but the fact is it can cause harm and do so immediately. Tell me all the data we have about long term effects please. It’s still way too early to tell if the vaccine is even effective or if we causing the mutations. We know that you can still catch Covid with the vaccine and you can still die with the vaccine. What do we know about the potential risks of the vaccine besides appearing safe?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29502 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:20 pm to
Exactly.

Who's going to enforce it? Who?

If an owner of a store or restaurant wants to require it. Fine.

I will not be a patron.

They need my money more than I need their goods/services.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29502 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:21 pm to
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Zero fricks given. I just resigned today from teaching. Sixteen years, been teacher of the year, and love education. Can’t deal with the bull shite anymore. Life is too short.




Walt, no you didn't.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:22 pm to
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Walt, no you didn't.


Haha yes they did. And great for them.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:28 pm to
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Your healthcare leaders are 100% to blame. Horrific resource planning around nurses and staff are the reason we are here


When you pay them to stay home they stay home
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27120 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:30 pm to
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immediately. Tell me all the data we have about long term effects please. It’s still way too early to tell if the vaccine is even effective or if we causing the mutations. We know that you can still catch Covid with the vaccine and you can still die with the vaccine. What do we know about the potential risks of the vaccine besides appearing safe?


I think the concerns for long term affects are valid, even though adverse events from vaccines usually show up quickly, but what would have been an acceptable time frame to roll it out? I don’t think it’s reasonable, given the lethality of covid for some groups, to have waited much longer than they did. I think they could have waited for more data before pushing it on the sub 18 group.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22066 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:37 pm to
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So nice that early inconclusive data is pointing the direction you want, but the fact is it can cause harm and do so immediately.


How can you call the data that says the vaccines are safe, "inconclusive" while the data that says it's unsafe is conclusive? Even then, the data isn't inconclusive at all. If anything, this is one of the most researched vaccines in history because of the number of data points we've been able to collect.

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It's still way too early to tell if the vaccine is even effective or if we causing the mutations

Nonsense. It's incredibly effective and to my knowledge there isn't a single veritable study that says differently.

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We know that you can still catch Covid with the vaccine and you can still die with the vaccine. What do we know about the potential risks of the vaccine besides appearing safe?

You can still get COVID and die once vaccinated, but every bit of data tells us that risk is greatly reduced once you've gotten the vaccine.

The idea that we need to put this vaccine through some kind of multi-generational study before we can be super sure it's safe is ridiculous. That's not something required of any vaccine that the FDA approves.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
11856 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:41 pm to
It’s crazy how there are so many people who still think this is about safety lol

The “science” says mask don’t work, why make people wear a mask?

This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 7:53 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86012 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:44 pm to
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Nearly one out of four adults in Louisiana is considered obese. Louisiana ranks among the top ten states in the United States – many of which are in the south - for both adult and childhood obesity (2017)




Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83709 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Dr. Catherine O'Neal, with OLOL Medical Center: "These are the darkest days of this pandemic. We are no longer giving adequate care to patients." #lalege #lagov


I know we have a few on here closely tied in with the hospital system…. Any indication on what the true numbers of ICU usage for Covid is? Data to back up her being full of shite?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86012 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Nonsense. It's incredibly effective and to my knowledge there isn't a single veritable study that says differently.


For how long though?

Posted by Mantard
A Better Place
Member since Nov 2011
122 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:03 pm to
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I don’t think it’s reasonable, given the lethality of covid for some groups, to have waited much longer than they did. I think they could have waited for more data before pushing it on the sub 18 group.


I agree with that which brings me to my next point. Can one of the vaccine experts please explain what studies and data were used to change the approval age from 18 to 12 in less than a year? Did they put test subjects in a time machine? If all the data we have is so assuring of safety, why now in the biggest resurgence since the outbreak, would there be hesitancy to keep any age child from getting the vaccine. I’m sure when the All-Knowing FDA changes their mind again soon to 10 years old, lots of parents will be so happy they can do what they are told and be safe now.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13492 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:14 pm to
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That might look bad for vaccinations but a major reason these things happen is because when you have a higher vaccinated population you're bound to have more breakthrough cases with people who are immune compromised anyway where a vaccine only helps so much if at all for them


Smallpox efficacy is around 95% with years of data. This one is what 85 and dropping?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22066 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:14 pm to
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Can one of the vaccine experts please explain what studies and data were used to change the approval age from 18 to 12 in less than a year? Did they put test subjects in a time machine?


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FDA Evaluation of Available Safety Data

The available safety data to support the EUA in adolescents down to 12 years of age, include 2,260 participants ages 12 through 15 years old enrolled in an ongoing randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial in the United States. Of these, 1,131 adolescent participants received the vaccine and 1,129 received a saline placebo. More than half of the participants were followed for safety for at least two months following the second dose.



LINK

Fwiw, I don't think it's as crucial to vaccinate kids for COVID. Their cases are usually much milder (and the FDA & CDC say as much) and if I remember correctly they don't spread it as well as a result.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13492 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:20 pm to
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Fwiw, I don't think it's as crucial to vaccinate kids for COVID. Their cases are usually much milder (and the FDA & CDC say as much) and if I remember correctly they don't spread it as well as a result.



You obviously didn’t listen to the head of NOLAs children’s hospital head speak to press conference. All false according to him.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13102 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:21 pm to
Won’t be long till face coverings won’t be acceptable. They will require N95 respirators.
Posted by Mantard
A Better Place
Member since Nov 2011
122 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:22 pm to
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quote: Nonsense. It's incredibly effective and to my knowledge there isn't a single veritable study that says differently. For how long though?


Exactly, we know that viruses mutate. Vaccines typically kill viruses effectively enough before they can mutate. This is not a vaccine and does not kill the virus, potentially allowing it to mutate.
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