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re: JBE suggests broad COVID vaccine mandates after FDA approval

Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
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87 thinks it’s hilarious

Govt mandates I can’t let my dick hang out when I go out in public. HOW CAN THEY TELL ME HOW TO DRESS?

87 thinks everyone is a huge fricking hypocrite who is fine with govt intrusion when it fits their needs

MMR vaccine mandate good, frick the hippies

Covid mandate bad, FREEEDDDDOOOOOMMMM PATRIOT GIFFFFF


Yeah, you aren't emotional at all.

Your problem right now is thinking people who want a limited government is the same as them wanting zero government.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14332 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
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99.9% survivability rate. The fact people don't understand this is quite astonishing to me.

Just curious.. do you have anyone close to you, whether because of age or underlying issues, who may be in the under 99.9% survivability category? Is it not worth opting to take an essentially risk free vaccine for their sake? Are you not concerned that surgeries are being cancelled because of how many unvaccinated people are overtaking hospital space?

Taking a zero risk vaccine so you won’t give grandma Covid. Who can disagree with that? When did so many people start aligning their world views with hippies from Portland who don’t like showers?


Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70088 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
it does not. and i’m afraid our local goal post movers are quickly shifting their stances towards this level of authoritarian over reach.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11809 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
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The survival rate in the age group does not support making it mandatory for them.

The mumps have a fatality rate of . 027%
Chicken pox has a fatality rate of .001%
Measles has a fatality rate of .15%

So does the survival rate of those suggest that we should take those off the mandate list as well?
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:37 am to
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Have you ever taken an mRNA vaccine before? No one has until now. I choose to wait until they debug this one and 2.0 comes out with info I can use to make long term decisions. I cannot make an informed decision on this one because no one knows the % chances of what long term effects may be, if any.

.03% chance of death is practically zero so why add unknown variables to the equation for so little gain? I am not in a risk group, my BMI is low enough to not be considered obese (still losing weight), I take D,B,Zinc and C every day, eat better now than I ever have in my life, do an hour of cardio 3x a week.

No reason to invite unknowns into a currently practically riskless situation.
You said you won’t take it until they removed all liability waivers

So I ask again, have you taken other vaccines?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55673 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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Hell, the supposed party of small govt used to tell people who could and couldn’t be married and it was supported by those “small govt lovers”



If you think the Republican party is for small government, then you're an idiot. They are for "not as big as government as the left, but still pretty big". Common sense conservatism and nationalism is the only cure for our dying country.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12294 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
I have preferred to drive for over a decade. That includes business trips to Duluth, MN. Also, gives me the opportunity to stop and visit clients on the way up and the way back. Personal visits still matter
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
15066 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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yes

Children in Louisiana have to have 2 doses of varicella before starting school. There is no “well I had it” clause



The same Varicella that's been around since the 70s?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58009 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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It really is amazing to see so many Americans turn authoritarian so quick. They secretly crave the ability to put people under their thumb.


it really is because they havent had to fight for anything in their life. There hasnt been adversity since the 60s with the draft, and hell all those patriots that were sent to be kill by the American government are completely against what is going on now. all the boomers that didnt take part in the war are the loons now that crave to be controlled.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40055 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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The COVID vaccine would then work just like other vaccines that are currently mandatory. There are a number of them that are on a schedule that the [Louisiana] Department of Health requires whether it’s K-12, higher education and so forth, subject to whatever opt-out provisions are in current law “It would be my expectation that once full authorization or licensure is granted that the vaccines will be added to the list and work just like the current measles, mumps, rubella,” he said.


Are any of these required to fly or travel internationally?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70088 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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Taking a zero risk vaccine so you won’t give grandma Covid. Who can disagree with that? When did so many people start aligning their world views with hippies from Portland who don’t like showers?


fair. but when did the left side of the political aisle start aligning their views with supporting a more powerful central government?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133819 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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a lot of goal posts moving about to happen



Well when the governor moves his goalposts you have to move yours in kind.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25972 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:39 am to
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Just curious.. do you have anyone close to you, whether because of age or underlying issues, who may be in the under 99.9% survivability category? Is it not worth opting to take an essentially risk free vaccine for their sake? Are you not concerned that surgeries are being cancelled because of how many unvaccinated people are overtaking hospital space?


LOOK AT MY EMOTIONS! I can use this lazy horseshite for anything. You ever know anyone who died in a car wreck? Isn't it worth not driving to ensure you don't kill a loved one of someone else? Why are you so selfish? Who can disagree with that?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35035 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:39 am to
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There are maybe 0.00001% of this country that truly is about limited govt


unfortunatly i am in this %. I say unforunate because its should be 75% plus are in that catagory.

Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
25930 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:39 am to
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Have y’all seen wtf is going on in Australia? China like lockdown. They’re in week 6 just extended 4 more weeks.

Outside 1 hr/day
1 person pre household allowed to store per day
No gatherings of more tha 2 people.

Something is gonna break when they try this here.


the worst part is, their government has detailed no exit strategy from this. It's zero covid. That's it. Are they just going to do this until the end of time?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55673 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:39 am to
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So I ask again, have you taken other vaccines?


Do you think, that there might be a difference between the covid shot, and previous vaccines?

There's a pretty obvious one, off hand. Do you know what it is? For example, take measles/mumps vaccine for comparison. What are the differences between that, and the covid shot (i don't think we can even call it a vaccine anymore).
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58009 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:39 am to
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87 thinks it’s hilarious

Govt mandates I can’t let my dick hang out when I go out in public. HOW CAN THEY TELL ME HOW TO DRESS?

87 thinks everyone is a huge fricking hypocrite who is fine with govt intrusion when it fits their needs

MMR vaccine mandate good, frick the hippies

Covid mandate bad, FREEEDDDDOOOOOMMMM PATRIOT GIFFFFF


you sound like a fricking loon.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:40 am to
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You wouldn't agree that public dress codes i.e. being disallowed to hang out with your wang out in public is a vastly different animal than mandating that people must receive a vaccine/chemical into their bod
Im using an extreme example of how people are ok with govt overreach when it suits them

People were fine with not allowing gay marriage, because they personally didn’t like it, etc etc

We are all gigantic hypocrites that pick and choose when we want govt involved
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21173 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:40 am to
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You said you won’t take it until they removed all liability waivers


My point was that if someone is going to force me to take it then they need to shoulder the liability.

Yes I have taken other actual, traditional vaccines so go ahead with whatever trap you think you've set for me.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:42 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55673 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:40 am to
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the worst part is, their government has detailed no exit strategy from this. It's zero covid. That's it. Are they just going to do this until the end of time?



Hmmm. Election in 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028.... Yes, this will never end as long as Democrats are in control.
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