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re: JBE Exec. Counsel: rescinding order would effectively open schools, cancel federal aid

Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39313 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Louisiana would in effect reopen schools
bullshite. We’re shut down for the school year here in Kansas and as of right now it looks like stay at home will be lifting Monday.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109023 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Why would it mean schools have to open? Texas is opening up gradually and schools are closed for the year.


It doesn't. We're closed for the year here in Kentucky (all online instruction) but moving into opening some things back up with restrictions. And we were never under a full-on state at home order (pretty close to it).
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:53 pm to
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So school lasts too long every year and teachers should be paid less.



no they had already cancelled 3 weeks of testing plus the fluff weeks.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:54 pm to
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does this do away with the waiver of students having to make up the seat time?

No, that is a state decision. It would stop any emergency aid that the schools are using to pay employees for the remainder of the year, but that money should already be in the budget.
They also have saved a TON on money on maintenance and other operating costs, so it should be a net gain for the schools by now anyway.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:55 pm to
What are you not understanding? Texas is still under an emergency order. If the leg gets their wish, our emergency order would be cancelled entirely.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32333 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:56 pm to
Or the damage done from Honor Code sending high paying jobs to Texas for 4 years.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4165 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Or he could just produce a more logical and reasonable order which allows certain people to go back to work while still maintaining social distance, etc.

This is Johnny boy saying he will certainly do no such thing. He's calling their bluff now. Question is, can the petition be worded to require rewording? I have no idea.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56852 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:59 pm to
so he could relax the order, open a few things up slowly & still get the federal benefits which was my point
JBE is acting like it’s all or nothing which isn’t true, he just doesn’t want to back down
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26695 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:04 pm to
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Or the damage done from Honor Code sending high paying jobs to Texas for 4 years.



socialist refer to this as progress.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32333 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:07 pm to
He doesn’t want to give the legislature time to do anything more than swallow his load of new Covid taxes. And gives zero fricks about how many businesses and lives he ruins in doing so. He owes his re-election to GumboPac, in return he promised them he would scuttle any attempts at tort reform. All he has to do is stall this a few more weeks, and any meaningful legislation falls by the wayside, and next year is a Fiscal Only session. He’s using the black Caucus to run interference for him, which they’re happy to help with since they don’t want tort reform either.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17213 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:08 pm to
If John bel Edwards was on fire. I would not piss on him to put it out.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
If he was on fire, I'd throw more fuel on it to let him burn a few minutes longer.
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1630 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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(Lawyers are further reviewing if the termination of an emergency declaration would jeopardize any funding through the CARES Act or SBA loans)


This might matter to future applications but people that have already filed and received funding qualified based on the disaster declaration in place at that time.
Posted by illinitiger
North then South
Member since Feb 2009
3331 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Has any of the GOP legislature responded to this bs today?


My district legislator called me back this morning and confirmed all this. They’re currently looking at the legality and ways around the federal funding. Said they’re pushing to have the petition by tomorrow. Relayed to me the story that was in the interview yesterday. Honor Code had them all in the call, assured them of phase 1 opening or something similar (had been telling them that for weeks). Talked to him again 45 mins before the press conference and it was the same story. They all received an email 5 mins before the conference saying he had no plans to open. Told me in so many words the legislation is pissed at JBE for lying...for whatever that’s worth
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by SECbro
Member since Aug 2018
683 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:11 pm to
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What are you not understanding? Texas is still under an emergency order. If the leg gets their wish, our emergency order would be cancelled entirely.

Again, they have multiple moves. Threaten to end the order and get the gov to negotiate a new order or a pledge to revisit in a week under clear state data (which already meets trump guidelines), etc. If that doesnt work, end the order for x hours and try again.

If all that fails end the order and request the parishes immediately file their own trump phase 1 Emergency orders and request waivers for any federal aid that the state would get.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60201 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:29 pm to
Do people still care about the federal aid and the 95 year olds?

Just let me go to the bar and gym
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67151 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:32 pm to
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if an effort to rescind the gov's order goes forward, Louisiana would in effect reopen schools, cancel federal aid, etc.

I'll take fear mongering for $1,200 Alex.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:33 pm to
Are them legislators gonna nad up or what? Some of you baws should look into primary-ing the guys sitting on their hands?

All kidding aside though - if they did open up the schools I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heck, in my district they are going to open up classrooms for an hour or two each next week on a very spread out basis to get any personal supplies and stuff and I'm going just cause I want to be there.

And for those questioning whether teachers can plan lessons if it opens up - damn right we can. I don't know about all the issues about funding and waivers being lost, etc., but I don't think anyone should use a statement that teachers can't put plans together as any excuse. That's our job.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8896 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:40 pm to
Hell no. Bunch of pansy arse reps.

Sad thing is if it was the other way, the Dems would do it without hesitation. Don’t understand why GOP is such a bunch of Candy Asses
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 4/29/20 at 1:59 pm to
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If John bel Edwards was on fire. I would not piss on him to put it out.

You should try gasoline or a wet chain instead.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:01 pm
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